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By djdsk Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:32 am
I am in contact with an Akai employee and he asked me too forward details of people problems , please enter os version and hardrive make or if you are using crad . I go first

OS 2.1
Hitachi Travelstar HTS541080G9AT00 80GB

Problems:After around 1 week of use when saving cannot save and get "directory error" after another week program sor projects load with files missing . Cannot load certain files and get "wrong file" message . Ifd i connect to computer via usb i cannot copy 80% of files my computer tells me that the files is corrupt or unrediable .

By justme Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:15 am
I use a Kingston Technology 1gb Compact Flash and have upgraded RAM to 128Mb. I'm using OS 2.1 (the version that comes as standard with the black model).

Everytime i try to save anything i get 'Directory Error' message and none of the samples, programs or sequences save to my compact flash.

If anyone knows how to resolve this problem i would be very grateful as i've only had this baby for two weeks.

By loozman Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:58 am
Same for me with OS 2.1 and Kingston 1Gb CF card.."directory error" tryin to save whole memory to a new folder.
Sequences & Progs were saved but none of the associated samples.
This used to work before with that same Kingston CF card .
I guess there's some critical manipulations that should be avoid but I can't figure out.
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By CommanderRobot Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:14 pm
djdsk wrote:OS 2.1
Hitachi Travelstar HTS541080G9AT00 80GB

Problems:After around 1 week of use when saving cannot save and get "directory error" after another week program sor projects load with files missing . Cannot load certain files and get "wrong file" message . Ifd i connect to computer via usb i cannot copy 80% of files my computer tells me that the files is corrupt or unrediable .


that's exactly what i'm experiencing. i have a hitachi travelstar 20gb, no idea where i get this long "xxhts76594xx.." number from.

By djdsk Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:50 am
bump
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By beatnick Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:29 pm
I'm also having the same saving/loading problems.

MPC1000 w/ OS2.1 (I have also tried OS3)
40gig HD

When I save entire memory (in seperate folders) 90% of the time it will say "directory error". If I keep saving it, it will save ok but when I go to open the file it will either say "file not found" and the program file seems to also be corrupted.

So far I have lost about 2 months work.. and I'm pissed.

I hope AKAI (or JJ) fix this problem ASAP, I look forward to having a stable MPC.
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By TBonus76 Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:37 am
I have done a lot of troubleshooting on this problem, and I have sort narrowed it down, or rather isolated it to what seems to be a problem with the MPC misinterpreting the directory structure. I also found a workaround solution that has put an end to those errors for me. I have posted this many times before, but no one seems to pay attention. I will post it again since you are in contact with AKAI, maybe you can forward this to your contact or whatever.

If you follow these steps when you save, you will completely ELIMINATE the saving, directory, and system errors associated with saving. I have not had a single error since I started doing this, and before I started doing this, I was getting constant directory errors, system errors, and lost files.

tbonus76 wrote:The method I have for avoiding the saving crashes, directory errors, system errors, and the new folder bug involves "refreshing" the directory tree before creating the new folder. I was getting the errors quite frequently, but since I started this "refresh" technique, I have not gotten a single error. Here's what I do instead of overwriting:

Before you start implementing this saving technique, backup all your files and then format your card on the MPC so that you get a fresh start with no corruption present. In fact, go ahead and format a couple of times for good measure. Then, every time you save, do it like this:

1. (Optional step) In the SAVE directory tree, I move the cursor to the folder I want to save to and I hit RENAME, then in the RENAME dialog I hit COPY. This step is only so that I don't have to re-enter the individual letters when I get to step 5.

2. Close the RENAME dialog then delete the folder.

3. Close the directory tree. (At this point, if you go back into the directory tree, you will see that, in fact, the folder you just deleted has magically re-appeared as if it had never been deleted. Going back into the tree is not actually a step I take in the saving process, it is simply something strange I noticed when I was originally troubleshooting it.)

4. Here's where the "refresh" comes in... So after closing the directory tree (step 3), you should be back in the main SAVE dialog. Move the cursor up to the field at the top where you select where you want to save (i.e. MEMORY CARD or INTERNAL MEMORY or HARD DISK if you have one). I then change the option to INTERNAL MEMORY, and then I change it back to MEMORY CARD. That's the "refresh". Now the directory tree correctly reports that the folder was, in fact, deleted.

5. I then hit NEW to make a new folder, then in the NEW FOLDER dialog I hit PASTE (since i copied the name of the folder in step 1).

6. Then I SAVE ENTIRE MEMORY to the folder I just re-created.


I'm assuming this method would work for saving to the hard drive too, but I haven't been able to test that since I don't have a hard drive installed.

As far as I can tell, it is the combination of not overwriting, and "refreshing" that has eliminated the error for me. since I have been saving like this I have had ZERO errors.
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By DJ-T Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:21 am
way to go T-Bone! 8)
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By beatnick Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:43 am
Great, thanks for that TBonus. I will give that a go.

Still, Akai really needs to solve this problem asap, the whole reason I purchased an MPC instead of using a computer based rig is stability and now i find that it just isn't stable. :(

I'm actually considering taking back the 1000 and getting a 2000, from what I can gather that is a more stable platform but only 32MB ram!! I dunno if I can handle that.
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By TBonus76 Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:28 am
Yeah man, it's a bummer. Sucks to have a machine that can't save right. Hopefully it's something that can be fixed, and not a weird hardware problem or something.

I've been trying to figure out why "refreshing" the directory like that would make a difference. It seems like it would be an software type problem, but I don't know shiit about programming an OS. Hopefully it's software and not hardware related.

I wouldn't trade in the 1000 for the 2000 personally. You're gonna miss a lot of the features you've got now.... especially considering the JJ OS 3.0 stuff goin on right now. Ooops... can I say that in here? Hehe, playin.

By tim_k Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:09 pm
OS 2.10, Toshiba 40GB:

I load up beats and files are missing or corrupted as hell + I keep getting the message "Wrong file" when I try to load up samples.
I hope Akai will do somthing about this really soon! I really belived in this machine since I had almost no problems at all with my 2000XL. But I guess the more features, the more problems? Akai, shape up!
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By CommanderRobot Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:33 pm
tim_k wrote:OS 2.10, Toshiba 40GB:

I load up beats and files are missing or corrupted as hell + I keep getting the message "Wrong file" when I try to load up samples.
I hope Akai will do somthing about this really soon! I really belived in this machine since I had almost no problems at all with my 2000XL. But I guess the more features, the more problems? Akai, shape up!


same here. i'm using os 3.05, toshiba 20gb.
and it's noisy, runs for about 30 minutes from switching on my mpc.
sucks so bad!

By spaceaged Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:58 pm
tim_k wrote:OS 2.10, Toshiba 40GB:

+ I keep getting the message "Wrong file" when I try to load up samples.





i got this error the first day i started using the mpc...the reason was i was trying to use wav files that were unreadable in the mpc...EVERY wav must be 16bit 44,1 khz or whatever it is....alotta sounds i was using with no problem in FL wouldnt play with the mpc so i just resaved them in in this format instead...

By djdsk Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:47 am
T bone

Your method did not eliminate the problem for me , i was still getting directory error and cvorrupted files . I am using a hitatchi 80gb harddrive as recommended on akai site and nothing seemed to help me . I am now using 3.5 cos 2.1 suxed and i will report on if the problem occurs again .
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By TBonus76 Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:41 am
djdsk wrote:T bone

Your method did not eliminate the problem for me , i was still getting directory error and cvorrupted files . I am using a hitatchi 80gb harddrive as recommended on akai site and nothing seemed to help me . I am now using 3.5 cos 2.1 suxed and i will report on if the problem occurs again .



Did you format your drive before you started saving like I described? You must format first in order to eliminate the corruption that was there. Then, you must follow the saving procedure I explained every time you save. If you have corruption on your drive from previous errors, you will continue to get errors even with OS 3.X.


P.s. format your drive using the MPC, not the PC.

I also found the PC disk utilities caused havoc when I tried to run them on my MPC drive.