Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:14 am
will 32 MB will be enough?

i want to do more than only beats on a XL
i want play midi like bass from it and record back and want to play external sources into it
like chords and mix em up

arrange the whole song there more or less and than track to logic to further shape

will 32MB be fine?
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By LunaticBastard Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:13 am
if your planning on recording your midi tracks back into the mpc then 32 will probably not be enough. but you can leave the midi tracks playing from your synth's/ modules. then just track them into logic directly from there. then you will be fine with 32. thats how i did it with my xl and i never ran out of space
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:44 am
hmm i rather dont use much real synth, just have one Clavia
mainly i would use virtual instruments / and samples
played on my master keyboard or the mpc`s midi itself



wait lunatic u mean actually recording MIDI back yes? no man no no what i would record back would be audio

that fine?




i really wanna mess with this beast not only for drums but for sample/melody/song arrange stuff as well
basicaly my aim is to be able to "on the fly" while recording to Logic (of course having everathign prepared in the mpc before)
to do all the variations... like breaks, special rolls... one time special sounds and such stuff because i really really dont like to do such thing in the software world... and with the mpc i can do it by feeling, with my hands..... no mouse no automation
thats my wish
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By Lampdog Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:05 am
If you wanna track audio then use your daw, not mpc 2kxl.

U can use 2kxl or your daw to track midi.
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By Lampdog Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:54 am
2kxl doesn't support 128mb.

98% of all videos cause more questions and confusion than actually helping helping people.

2kxl is NOT a time based tracking machine. Are you understanding that yet?
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:02 am
ehm yes i am also aware of the fact that hes using a 1000 not a 2k XL wich is with 32 at its max.


i am simply asking if i can work liek this because i want to but the mpc in the middle of my production workflow
and do as mcuh as i can on that machine instead ITB you get me?

i mean look at it like this... i should have expressed it like that the first way maybe

- i want to track into it yes but not or the sake of just tracking, of course i would go directly DAW than
but i want to further manipulate what i recorded... like combining chords for example
treat what i played into it as samples
you see?
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By Lampdog Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:11 am
I looked at what FORUM you put this topic first of all, 2kxl.

I have no interest in looking at videos, don't care for them at all.

I have an interest in helping you get wherever you need to get with this.

128mb ram still doesn't make a machine a time based track machine.

It can do a little but not time based tracking. It's an mpc.

Again, I won't be watching the video.
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:21 am
:D ok man o problem i also see you try to be everywhere and help out every 2. topic
i d be stressed too and wouldnt watch every youtube flick for explanation



but after all i still dont know if i can do what i ve in mind or not... i mean of course i and not would sample loop-wise

like maybe 8 (bars? sorry i am no native speaker) and not trying to record several minutes into it...
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By Lampdog Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:26 am
It's not a problem.....


As long as you understand that mpc is not a time based track machine, keep your samples/loops to fit inside the 128mb you should be fine. Remember the mpc uses that ram for ALL operations while it's powered on, song, sequence, operating.

CF card is only for storage.

Sampling a loop or a few loops should be fine.

I just hate videos that's all. Videos confuse too many people.
Member "sparq" here has a good 1k video somewhere around also. His is good. He explains stuff, not just a video ya know.
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:41 am
hehe yes i know what you mean.. but i must admit some vids showed me what is possible with this machines
also watched tutorial style ones


well we talk 32 here not 128

still ok?

i decided to go or the 2k XL instead of the 1k



i have no idea how much that amount 32 or 128 mb of time and capacity gives me but i can always track in between to logic, playback there, clear mpc memory and proceed with the song
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By Fung45 Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:08 am
I use my 2000 classic as a sampler as well as to trigger a number of synths and I have never run out of memory. MIDI does not take up very much memory. Once I have a bunch of sequences done I put them in song mode and track them out into my DAW. From what I understand you want to do this but instead of recording sequence information of things like drops and mutes and drum rolls you want to do it live on the fly while you are tracking out. I don't see why 32MB isn't plenty of ram to do everything you want to do and more unless I'm totally missing something here.
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By ion Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:27 am
yes i think so too, and thats exatcly what i want to do

but very interesting, i am new to mpc... XL s not even here but you mentioned that song mode... sounds logical
thats what i meant about arranging, just didnt know there is exatcly that function, and named like that etc

cool, yes i think going for the 32 XL was a good decision instead of 1K
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By Lampdog Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:43 am
If I didn't have an mpc and had a choice like you, I'd go for the 1k. Then get the jjos on top of that.
You'll be GLAD you didn't go for the much more limted feature 2kxl.

Don't do the 2kxl, get 1k.