Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By Aerodynamics Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:36 pm
I wanna do my drums on the MPC and everything else on my Triton. Is there a way to get the two to playback simultaneously so I can hear everything together? What should the MIDI settings be? Is it also possible to play notes on one device to the other's metronome? For example, I wanna sequence a tune in the Triton while playing to the drums I've sequenced in the MPC.
By LabWorkz Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:43 pm
Aerodynamics wrote:I wanna do my drums on the MPC and everything else on my Triton. Is there a way to get the two to playback simultaneously so I can hear everything together? What should the MIDI settings be? Is it also possible to play notes on one device to the other's metronome? For example, I wanna sequence a tune in the Triton while playing to the drums I've sequenced in the MPC.



~MPC mid out to Triton midi in> Triton midi out to MPC midi in> Turn off local control on the Triton and go to song or pattern mode. :wink:

~Hope u got a mixer u will need it to hear yur Triton and yur mpc at the same time! :shock:

By Aerodynamics Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:49 pm
I tried that last night and it didn't work. What should the midi settings be on the MPC side? I wanna get it to where I press play on the MPC, the Triton plays, and then both play at the same time. I do have a mixer so I could hear sounds from both.

By LabWorkz Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:58 pm
Aerodynamics wrote:I tried that last night and it didn't work. What should the midi settings be on the MPC side? I wanna get it to where I press play on the MPC, the Triton plays, and then both play at the same time. I do have a mixer so I could hear sounds from both.



~Turn off local control on the Triton! 8) I dont kno how to do that on the Triton I have the Motif ES6! :wink:

By cooocooo1 Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:18 am
If you want to use the Triton as a 16 channel module you have to be in Sequencer mode. Set the track in the MPC to MIDI: 1A Device01> make sure the Triton is set to track one, select a sound> play the keys, you should hear the Triton> Press REC/PLAY on the MPC and you should be good to go.
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By KiNeSiS Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:09 am
With all this being said where does the mixer come into play? Do you mean a turntable mixer. I have the same problem.

By LabWorkz Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:48 am
KiNeSiS wrote:With all this being said where does the mixer come into play? Do you mean a turntable mixer. I have the same problem.


~U need a audio mixer wit enough inputs to hook yur gear up! Peep the link! :wink:

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i- ... LZPRO.html
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By cyrus Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:53 am
damn, alright.....first this has been posted before. Also check out www.tritonhaven.com go to the forums, ask triton questions there too.

hook up the midi cables. On the triton in global mode, go to the midi menu page. check "external" instead of "internal" also turn local control off. CHanging internal to external is telling the triton that an "external" module will send the timing clock to control the midi messages being sent. Turning local control off is telling the triton, that the triton wont play any sound unless its recieving a timing clock from an external sequencer.

go to the mpc, select your track#, start with track 1-midi channel 1,2,3,4,etc. (or whatever midi channel you want) this is under the track #: change drum1 to midi, change "off" to: midi channel 1,2,3,4,5 which ever one you want.

midi channel 1 corresponds to track 1 on the triton (in seq mode)

remember, IF you want more than one sound coming out the triton i.e. 16 tracks, you have to be in sequence mode. If you are in combi or program mode, you will only get the sound that is currently selected in that mode.

Anyways, midi channel two on the mpc corresponds to track 2 in seq mode on the triton, same as midi channel 3 on mpc to track 3 on the triton, so on and so forth; THE MIDI CHANNEL # ON THE MPC CORRESPONDS TO THE TRACK # ON THE TRITON. ON the mpc, the track # and midi channel # are two separate identities. THIS MEANS you can have track 3 selected, and change the midi channel to whatever # you want.

SO FOR EXAMPLE on the mpc, track 5 can say midi channel 2, 3,5,6,7 or whatever. BUT the midi channel # will always match the tracks on the triton. GET it? so say on the mpc it is track 5, midi channel 1. This means that whatever sound selected on track 1 on the triton will play for midi channel 1 on the mpc. If on track 6 you select midi channel 1 you will play the same sound as track 5.

now you have to record your sequences on the mpc, i.e. hit play and record, then play on the triton keys. Just because you are in sequence mode on the triton, it has nothing to do with the sequencer on the triton. SEQ mode on the triton is both the sequencer, and "multi mode" where you can have multitimberal function using an external sequence i.e. the mpc.

I know it seems complex and it isnt, when i try to explain its hard because it is not as hard as it is to write it out step by step.

peace
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By cyrus Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:12 am
LabWorkz wrote:
KiNeSiS wrote:With all this being said where does the mixer come into play? Do you mean a turntable mixer. I have the same problem.


~U need a audio mixer wit enough inputs to hook yur gear up! Peep the link! :wink:

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i- ... LZPRO.html


exactly.

basic producing one O one. midi cables send control information-like when you type on your computer keyboard, you send messages to the computer on what letters you pushed: same thing with midi, except it is musical type information that you send to the triton-or mpc brain. information like what note was played, how fast, was it in time or not, etc.

1/4" plugs send out sound. So, think about it, actually think about it. If you have both the mpc and triton hooked up via midi cables, all you are communicating between the two are MIDI messages, messages you cannot hear. SO to hear both pieces, you need both thier outputs hooked up to the speakers.

WHEN the mpc is telling the triton to play, its doing just that, telling it what to play, not taking its sound or something. REmember, when two pieces are connect via MIDI; midi is a form of the two electronic peices communicating with eachother, thats it, they are communication electronically-one telling the other what to do. WHAT sounds they play, have to be heard from thier 1/4" outputs.

EXAMPLE: IF i tell you what to say, and you say it, you are still saying it, the sound is still comming from your mouth, im just telling you what to say. GET IT?

a mixer (not a dj mixer) but one of those that have the faders that go up and down and bunch of knobs......anyways, what a mixer does is combine both the sound from the two peices of equipment. SO for example, the outputs of the triton connect to the mixer, same with the outputs of the mpc. THey both go into the mixer, then the output of themixer goes to the speakers. Basically it is like a home stereo reciever. The reciever is themixer, adn the cd player, tape player, and radio are all sound sources that need to be connected to the reciever, the reciever then sends the sounds to the speakers. If you didnt have the reciever, then you couldnt hook up the speakers to the cd player, etc.

A mixer then allows you to controll the sounds by raising or lowering the volume of either the triton or mpc, or whatever is connected. It also allows more than one peice of equipment to use the same speakers.

By pawn Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:42 pm
So if you have a mixer that the keyboard and mpc are both plugged into are the studio monitors plugged into the mixer or do you need an amp? If so how does that come into play because right now all i got is my mpc playing through my stereo reciever and i plan on getting a synth and want to know what im gunna need.
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By cyrus Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:21 am
pawn wrote:So if you have a mixer that the keyboard and mpc are both plugged into are the studio monitors plugged into the mixer or do you need an amp? If so how does that come into play because right now all i got is my mpc playing through my stereo reciever and i plan on getting a synth and want to know what im gunna need.


it depends on what kind of speakers you get. If they are home stereo speakers like you already have, then the reciever is a form of an amp.

If you buy powered monitor speakers, then all you have to do is plug the mixer directly into them. they have built in amps I.e. "powered" means "AMplified"

if you buy passive monitor speakers, you will need an amp, in that case you can plug the amp into the mixer.

If you use a mixer with your home stereo speakers, you just have to be sure that you use the "rec" outs on your mixer to plug into the reciever.