Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By ABiggz313 Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:51 pm
Recently I’ve been thinking getting a mpc 2000 or XL. I’ve been using only ableton and reason for many years and want to switch things up. One thing I was thinking about doing if I find I don’t like chopping samples in the 2000 is to record vinyl directly to my computers audio interface and chop in serato sample because of how flexible it is and how quick you can chop and separate instruments if needed and then record the chops back into the mpc for sequencing. My question is has anyone tried something’s like this. Would it sound any worse by having the vinyl go through the audio interface and to the daw and then back out to the mpc vs going directly from vinyl to mpc?
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By Telefunky Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:02 am
The cartridge of a record player (or rather it‘s output and impedance) doesn‘t match most audio interfaces‘ input channels.
Either a hifi amp or a dedicated preamp is required. The latter from $20 to $2k and up...
Output of the cartridge is then transformed into a regular line signal that can be sent to the interface.

I‘ve used a (hifi) NAD 1020 (preamp version of the famous 3020) for it‘s quality phono input stage to capture vinyl.
Back then not for chopping, but to transfer an original mix into digital instead of „remastered“ CD releases.

But: for chopping beats you don‘t necessarily want „hifi“ sound... the less sophisticated input stages of MPCs may deliver a signal with more grip/bite or whatever you call it, kind of optimized for the purpose.
Another thing you may experience is context while working on the sample directly on the target machine. Ideas can be transformed immediately, happy accidents, etc.

No question that chopping on a PC/Mac is multitudes more efficient than on any MPC.
But it can be different to pre-collect hundreds of samples and hope the flow (hopefully) will start later, dunno :hmmm:
I‘ve been reasoning about this myself (MPC4K) with no result yet... :mrgreen:
By ABiggz313 Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:27 pm
Thanks for the response. I’m using a motu m4 audio interface which has a pretty decent DAC. I ran a test where I recorded a song off vinyl directly into my audio interface into my daw then saved as a wav file and then loaded that into my sp404 and then recorded the same song off vinyl directly into the sp404. Then A/B tested the results and they sounded exactly the same. I usually like to let a whole song play out before I start sampling it so while it’s playing it would be recording into my audio interface then chopped in serato this way you can chop quickly and process the samples however you like with different plugins then record the chops back to mpc for sequencing with the drums from s900 (one thing I notice after recently getting the s900 is how well it handles clipping vs clipping in a daw, the more you turn up for example drums in the daw passed clipping it will start to sound compressed, squashed and duller but on the s900 it creates a nice crunchy effect when your clipping). Ive been thinking this might be my ideal set up and a pretty quick workflow. Still need to decided if the xl is worth the extra money over the 2000 classic tho
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By Telefunky Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:59 pm
I started late with a MPC Studio (cheapo, 2nd hand) to get some impression of the workflow.
Liked it and it was clear a „classic“ machine would be it, not the software.
So I collected as much information as possible about the various models.

I would have picked a 2Kxl, but a 4k (fully expanded) popped up in the neighborhood for a good price. :smoker:
Imho the difference in price is justified for the xl’s improved functionality.
(check out some 1:1 comparisons)

The S900 is a great complement for it‘s special sample treatment (pitch via sample clock, versus playback speed of sample buffer) and of course it’s filter 8)