Trade my MPC2000 for an MPC60 ? The Sound? The Sequencer?

What's up,
I would like advices from you guys.

I'm producing hip-hop/r&b and pop.

I've been using an MPC-2000 (not XL) since 5 years. It is the brain of my studio. I love the sequencer, but since I got an Ensoniq ASR-10 I realize that my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess.

I found somebody who is willing to exchange his old MPC-60 for my MPC-2000 (and 200 $). This way I'll have the old school 12 bit sounds I've always been searching for.

My question is:
What about the sequencer? Should I keep my MPC-2000 (I really like it, and I'm used to it)? Or should I take the MPC-60 route? I've heard some people who said that the groove of the 60 is the "real" deal, while others say that the MPC-2000 is more modern.

What do you think?

sup man,
there is a ridiculous amount of posts that have this same exact question. just search through the posts in this section and in the mpc60/3000 section. im thinkin about doing the same thing but i dont wanna give up my 2kxl yet so i am just gonna get a 60 and see what its all about and if i feel that is all i need than ill sell the 2kxl. i suggest you do something like that just incase the 60 isn't for you. peace

there is no new mpc 60's.....trading you mpc 2k will just cause more headaches......if you want the real deal get a mpc 4000/or that new ish roland got out........please do not go backwards.....if you have an ensoniq asr 10 you don't need that ish at all.....just an old school filter and you are good....."only built for cuban linx" was made with an asr 10

I don't know what is with all these buy-the-past MPC60 (and MPC3000) posts lately. There must be a lot of surfers reading old interviews somewhere. I own both of these MPC's. Let me tell you they never get used anymore.

The MPC2000XL is so much easier to use and the MPC4000 is the producer's dream machine. I've had my MPC60 for over 10 years. For the last few years I have hardly turned it on. The same goes for the MPC3000. After you have had sampler luxury like this you never want to go back to the crazy limitations you had to put up with years ago. Keep your 2000XL. Save your money and add an MPC4000 or trade up to it. If you want dirty sounds, you don't need old gear to get them. You can change everything in software and then use the modified samples on your new machine.

Move forward. Don't go back. For every buyer of an MPC60 thinking he's going to be the next millionaire there is a seller who is glad to get every cent he can for this old thing.

yeah, MPC Producer, I mean, why do folks use terms usually associated with analog gear(warm, punchy, crispy, grity, grungy, grimy, dirty, poopy) to describe two pieces of obviously digital gear?....its more like grit emulation or simulation or something.....

ajouffa-trust me on this, if you bounce down to a 60, be prepared to spend alot of time not making beats and asking questions.....I can see if you started on a 60 or 3k then those quirks will be like second nature and you will have already have developed workarounds for them as opposed to going from 2k to 3k or even worse 60 and getting a rude awakening....you may have to change up your entire routine (not a problem if thats what you want)..but trust me after spending a month with a 60 that fabled schwing and grit are gonna be the least of your concerns....

and btw...if you want some grit or whatever just sample to tape.....thats what I do and it makes a world of differencce.....

ajouffa wrote:my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess. What do you think?

I think all you cats who think they need to switch up their machines need to look at who's pushing the buttons. It aint the gear that needs to be changed to get a specific sound, its the techniques that the producer needs to change....not the MPC..

buttonpusha wrote:

ajouffa wrote:my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess. What do you think?

I think all you cats who think they need to switch up their machines need to look at who's pushing the buttons. It aint the gear that needs to be changed to get a specific sound, its the techniques that the producer needs to change....not the MPC..

Great great point......thats MPC quotable right there, mane...

If anything, bump yourself up to an XL and use the resampling function to knock your samples down to 12 bit. It doesn't sound quite the same as a 60 or SP, but it will grime it up just enough. Really, I have a SP and almost never use it anymore.

-OR- as it's been said a million times before when this question comes up - buy a S950 and sequence it with the MPC2000.

MPC_Producer wrote:If you want dirty sounds, you don't need old gear to get them. You can change everything in software and then use the modified samples on your new machine.

I've been telling people that for the longest but it falls on deaf ears. That dirty and gritty sound can be done on the PC so easily.

Swissmaster Cheese wrote:and btw...if you want some grit or whatever just sample to tape.....thats what I do and it makes a world of differencce.....

Dammmmm, u stiiilllllll got a tape deck!?!



--Me 2.. 3 of 'em. One with optical ins.

buttonpusha wrote:

ajouffa wrote:my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess. What do you think?

I think all you cats who think they need to switch up their machines need to look at who's pushing the buttons. It aint the gear that needs to be changed to get a specific sound, its the techniques that the producer needs to change....not the MPC..

sounds like something a man named "buttonpusha" would say.....but i agree

I use to work solely on the MPC60 and now work entirely in the 2000xl.
The ease of use in the 2kxl is well worth any loss *you might think* your experiencing of sonics.

I run all of my gear thru tube pre-amps and I get plenty of that "warmth" and "punchiness" I desire. If I want the gritt-e-ness I use Logic 6.3's BitCrusher plug in. No more MPC60 for me, its limitations compared to whats available today make it obselete. Buy your self a small 2 channel tube pre amp (Presonus makes one for like $150-$200) and your set.

I'm gonna get blasted but **** it....

I got three MPCs (60, 3000, 2000XL) and the 60 is my favorite, the 2000XL is my least favorite, i just hang on to and it cause everybody and they momma has one, so it makes collabos a breeze.

But truth be told, all the extra features on the 2000XL are useless, the only feature I miss when using the two older MPCs is the 16 Level Track Mute feature for doing quick mixes. Seriously. I dont give a **** about the zip drives or compatibility with computers, and wave form edirting doesnt make my life any better, I stay far away from my comp when doing music. I got my drum disk samples and thats it, I'll make em sound different later when i run the shit through the mixing board.

And you cant replicate the sound of a 60 using your dinky bit reducing features in your computer or 2000XL, it has nothing to do with the specs, its the actual parts the machines are built with. The 60 is from an era when shit was still built with quality. So depending on your sample the 60 will sound cleaner and sharper than a 2000XL without all the Eqing and compression involved in making a 2000XL sound really good (running the shit through a tube amp aint gonna do a thing, ive tried).

Its like comparing an old CHEVELLE to a new ACURA, on paper the Acura blows away the Chevelle but in reality the Chevelle is the better car.

But you gotta own one to know whats up. My favorite producers right now still use a 60, Ayatollah, Rik Rok, Premier. Shit aint outdated, thats corporate hype and bullshit telling you that (mpc1000...sure).

But opinions are like azzholes and internet message boards are full of them, so in the end though, you gotta buy one, if you dont like it, sell it and buy a 2000XL again.

DOVESKI wrote:I'm gonna get blasted but **** it....

I got three MPCs (60, 3000, 2000XL) and the 60 is my favorite, the 2000XL is my least favorite, i just hang on to and it cause everybody and they momma has one, so it makes collabos a breeze.

But truth be told, all the extra features on the 2000XL are useless, the only feature I miss when using the two older MPCs is the 16 Level Track Mute feature for doing quick mixes. Seriously. I dont give a **** about the zip drives or compatibility with computers, and wave form edirting doesnt make my life any better, I stay far away from my comp when doing music. I got my drum disk samples and thats it, I'll make em sound different later when i run the **** through the mixing board.

And you cant replicate the sound of a 60 using your dinky bit reducing features in your computer or 2000XL, it has nothing to do with the specs, its the actual parts the machines are built with. The 60 is from an era when **** was still built with quality. So depending on your sample the 60 will sound cleaner and sharper than a 2000XL without all the Eqing and compression involved in making a 2000XL sound really good (running the **** through a tube amp aint gonna do a thing, ive tried).

Its like comparing an old CHEVELLE to a new ACURA, on paper the Acura blows away the Chevelle but in reality the Chevelle is the better car.

But you gotta own one to know whats up. My favorite producers right now still use a 60, Ayatollah, Rik Rok, Premier. **** aint outdated, thats corporate hype and **** telling you that (mpc1000...sure).

But opinions are like azzholes and internet message boards are full of them, so in the end though, you gotta buy one, if you dont like it, sell it and buy a 2000XL again.

ayatollah and rick rock use other ish.........if i am correct