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By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:59 pm
Hi

Is there any way to remove the samples in a program that aren't used in the current song? I know you can purge the samples from memory that aren't in the current program but when I've finished a song I still have samples in the program that aren't used.

Any ideas?
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By DFENS Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:07 pm
yenorom wrote:Hi

Is there any way to remove the samples in a program that aren't used in the current song? I know you can purge the samples from memory that aren't in the current program but when I've finished a song I still have samples in the program that aren't used.

Any ideas?


if you are saving it to the same file that the program was in originally (presuming yu've saved the program before) it wont delete those file that were already there just because you purged them from memory. you can do this yourself through the usb connect on your pc. deleting files from memory will not automatically delete them from CF.

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:23 pm
I know they won't delete them from the card if they have been saved before. My plan was if I can remove the unused samples then save the program to a new folder so that it only saves the samples required, then I can throw away the old folder and have a folder that only contains the song, programs and samples required.
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By DFENS Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:31 pm
....so whats the prob?

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:39 pm
To do this at the moment I have to look at all the the sequences in the song and see which samples in the program don't actually get played in any of the sequences and then delete them from the program manually. Having the os do this itself would be much easier.

This won't be a huge problem when I've got a 80GB drive as space won't be an issue but it would help to keep things organised.

Think I might start a "tips to keep your drive organised" thread.

By sparq Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:06 pm
yenorom wrote:To do this at the moment I have to look at all the the sequences in the song and see which samples in the program don't actually get played in any of the sequences and then delete them from the program manually. Having the os do this itself would be much easier.

This won't be a huge problem when I've got a 80GB drive as space won't be an issue but it would help to keep things organised.

Think I might start a "tips to keep your drive organised" thread.
i don't see what the problem is... when working on a song, it only takes 2 seconds to go into mode>program and remove the samples that you are not using. either that or if you have 5 programs in one song, before you save your project, just consolidate all used samples to one program (unless you have more than 64 samples in that one song). i do this all the time. it's not a hard thing to do. the way i am going to do it when i get my hard drive is keep all of my samples (kicks, snare, hats, whatever....) in its own folder then as i am making a song, bring them into one program so when i save my project, i only have one program. to me (imo) would be the most effecient way of doing it.

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:07 pm
I don't think this is possible seeing as no-one knows what I'm talking about :( thanks anyway

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:20 pm
Ooops I didnt see sparqs reply,

When I get my hd my plan is similar. I will have a library folder of samples in categories of kick, snare etc. Then for each song have a folder with the song program and samples used.

As the sequences and programs/samples are both held on the same box unlike the usual pc sequencer and hadware sample setup it would be cool to have a clean program option.
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By DFENS Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:31 pm
yenorom wrote:To do this at the moment I have to look at all the the sequences in the song and see which samples in the program don't actually get played in any of the sequences and then delete them from the program manually. Having the os do this itself would be much easier.


so you want your mpc to automatically take out any samples that are not used in any sequencing.

thats pretty lazy dude. also, think about the problems that would arise with a feature like that.

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:37 pm
DFENS wrote:so you want your mpc to automatically take out any samples that are not used in any sequencing.

Yes that what I'm after.
DFENS wrote:thats pretty lazy

Guilty as charged :)
DFENS wrote:also, think about the problems that would arise with a feature like that.

What problems do you think it would cause?
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By DFENS Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:43 pm
you can assign the same sample to more than one pad right. if you have sequenced that sample using one pad but not the other, you would end up erasing samples from memory that you are actually using.

By yenorom Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:50 pm
Good point, hadn't thought of that. I'm sure akai could code around these situations though.
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By DFENS Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:02 pm
yer your probably right, i'm sure they could.

but honestly, good working practices should solve this issue for you. just keep track of what samples you've used. personally, i always know exactly what sounds i've used in my beat (i may not always remember where i took em from, but thats another story :twisted: ).

problems like this occur when people randomly throw in samples without thinking about what they are doing (thats not a personal dig at you!). if your compositions are built around carefully selected sounds, that have a purpose and reason for their use, then this is not going to be a problem for you. because you will have thought about whether it is a good idea to use that particular sound or not and be aware of all the samples that you've toyed with.
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By Antonym Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:14 pm
problems like this occur when people randomly throw in samples without thinking about what they are doing (thats not a personal dig at you!). if your compositions are built around carefully selected sounds, that have a purpose and reason for their use, then this is not going to be a problem for you.


i am guilty as charged