time stretching and detecting temp

i've watched the tutorial videos, ran a search on this forum and read the manual. to all the anal people here, please be easy with me. i'm a newbie.

i'm working with the new operating system. trying to sample an old motown record.

once i have the sample in, and chopped so that the start and finish is set up how i want, how do i time stretch so that it fits into the two bar loop i'm working on?

i've tried using the detect tempo thing, but that always seems to come back saying that the original tempo is 140 odd, which it seems obvious it isn't.

i feel like i'm missing a really obvious method. i know this should be so easy and straight forward.

i'd really appreciate some instructions as to how to time stretch the sample to fit into the loop i'm working in.

thanks a lot.

Figure out what the actual tempo of the sample is (i like to do this by getting it looping tight in it's own sequence, just to figure out the EXACT bpm). Then enter the actual tempo of the sample in ORIGINAL TEMPO, and the desired tempo in the other field (whatever it says i can't remember)... then you should be all good in da hood... except that your screen name refers to bush... fuuuhhhk dat mudda fukkah...

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my screen name refers to my two initials.....that's all.

thanks for your help.

i think i'm basically yet to grasp the beat making basics. i haven't a clue how to count out to find the tempo of anything.

I think that the tempo detector is not finished yet... Can any one confirm?

TeeDubya wrote:my screen name refers to my two initials.....that's all.

thanks for your help.

i think i'm basically yet to grasp the beat making basics. i haven't a clue how to count out to find the tempo of anything.

Yeah I guess it can be difficult at first. I DJ so when it comes to knowing whether the beat needs to be slowed or sped up to fit the tempo it comes instinctively.

I tend to go into a sequence and lay down a 4/4 kick drum house style and then start the sample on the first beat and then just listen and adjust the tempo until the sample is looping just right.

You ears will get better the more you practice i assure you.

SUSHI

I usually find my tempo with the same method as TBonus.
I've tryed the detect tempo and it gave me decent results, the thing is you must set the start point and end point of the sample to have one 4/4 measure selected.

thanks for your useful suggestions. usually people on here are really rude.

4/4 measure?

Yeah, one measure that has a 4/4 time signature, eg that contains 4 4th , 4 beats basically.
Not sure I'm clear here.
More info about time signature there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature

why don't your temporarily switch to another sequence, play teh sample, and tap tap tap tap tap with the tap tempo button?

To me, tap tempo is the only way to get near the actual tempo(tap tempo button)
and then you must know how to move with your sample
.. now 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4... and so on until your tappings give you roundabout where need to be
now and inch from there.
Or you can just use Cool Edit or BeatSlicer to find that tempo thing out for you. Holla

In the timestretch field just hit the button to find the tempo.... divide that number by half and you got a number that is just maybe a few ticks off from the actual bpm.

I really dont think the detect tempo works, its not really important though cause tempo tapping allways works fro me. The manual says the start and end points should be 1 bar 4/4 sig, it always give me a reading of 120 or higher which isnt right.

"detect tempo" on my 1k is working great.

interesting thread, in a way..... i play drums, full time, for a living, am comfortable with click and rarely does the tap tempo thing work for me. i usually have to do a trial and error thing to get it right, and even have a metronome handy to help. it's wierd....

other thing, maybe guys are making 2 bar loops without knowing it. ( wierd to me that you don't know what 4/4 is, but that's cool.... in a lot of cases, it helps to know something about music when you use these things,

hope this doesn't sound rude.......

i'm really bad at tapping tempo.

usually all my tempo dilemmas are solved by chopping small and setting mute groups. i always use double resolution (whenever possible too). to me, tempo is a symptom and attribute of my sample. it comes automatically. it's rarely determined by me, but rather by the song i'm working...i barely play a role in it