Please, if anyone has a MPC synchronized with a synth, help!

This is my Akai MPC1000----Roland Fantom S sync set up:

1- Wires: MPC MIDI IN A to FANTOM MIDI OUT ; MPC MIDI OUT A a FANTOM MIDI IN;
2- Fantom: LOCAL OFF ; Sync Mode: Slave-Midi, MMC MODE: Slave; Soft Through: Off;
3-MPC : MPC ACTIVE TRACK RECEIVE CHANEL: all; SOFT THROUGH: as track PAD TO INTERNAL SOUND: on; sync in: off sync out: A( MASTER); mode: midi time code , frame rate: 25 ( mtc en fantom igual); send MMC : on

Both machines are connected to a mixer. Sound is right, audio is not the problem.

Does anybody know why I can´t hear FANTOM when I play a patch on Fantom´s Ch 1 and select a MIDI sequence (prg: off) on 1A ?
Thank you
P

The rest is all the information displayed in both machines:

Fantom MIDI tab:

Device ID:17
Performance Control Channel: 1
Pad Patch Rx/Tx Channel ( es que el fantom lleva tb pads pero no los uso) :10

Fantom TRANSMIT tab:

transmit program change: off
transmit bank select: off
transmit active sensing: off
transmit edit data: off
soft through: off

Fantom RECEIVE tab:

Remote keyboard switch: on
Receive program change: on
Receive bank select: on
Receive exclusive: on
Receive GM System On: on
Receive GM System On: on
Receive GS Reset: on

Fantom SOUND tab:

Local switch: off

Fantom SYNC TEMPO tab:

Sync Mode: Slave-Midi
Sync Output: off
Tempo Override: off
Arp/Rhytm Sync Switch: off


Fantom MTC/MMC tab:

MMC MODE: Slave
MMC Output: off
MTC Sync Output: off
Frame Rate: 25
MTC Offset Time Hour: 0
´´ ´´ ´´ Minute: 0
¨¨ ¨¨ ¨¨ ¨¨ Second: 0
MTC Time Frame: 0
MTC Error Level: 0

MPC MIDI tab:

Active track receive channel: all
Sof Thru: as track
Sequence change by program: on
Pad to Internal Sound: on

MPC SYNC tab :

Sync in: off
Sync out: A (MASTER)
Mode : Midi Time Code frame 25 ( he probado como dice Dr No con Midi Clock y nada)
Send MMC : on

Turn local (on the fantom) back on. You're turning off the sound source when you choose that option (local off, should be local on).

That option would fit more if you were using the fantom just as a controller only.

Thanks dabmesiter for your reply
I did turn it on already.Keyboard doesn´t play its sounds. I want the MPC to be the master, that´s why I set both fantom´s sync and mmc as slaves.

No problemo. Next step would be to check your midi or pad routing on the mpc. If I'm using my mpc as a controller, I go to the midi page.

And under routing, I set the drum pad destination to midi out A. See if that works out for you.

Dubmeister, my Mpc 1000 midi settings look like this:

MPC MIDI tab:

Active track receive channel: all
Sof Thru: as track
Sequence change by program: on
Pad to Internal Sound: on

MPC SYNC tab:

Sync in: off
Sync Out: A MASTER
Mode: midi time frame 25...
MMC : ON

AKAI MPC 1000

Paddlock,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I´ll try this tonight and see what happens.
Gracias!!!

PADDLOCK,
I read the post from your link and set it up exactly like as you listed it. EXCEPT FOR the USB tab which I don´t have it. The only USB tab is in MENU and it gives two options: INTERNAL and MEMORY CARD. I set it internal. Am I right?


I re-read it twice, double-checked it.

So, I select TR 1 MIDI Pg. off Velocity: 100% MIDI 1A on my MPC1000 and selct a grand piano patch in a user template ( Receive channel 1 with the check-mark). Then, play record on my MPC, play some chords in my fantom: fantoms´s sounds are they when hit, but they are not recorded, or played back.

I´m starting to think that the issue may be on the JJ OS 1 or something else. Audio routing is OK ( both machines sound when played individually).Or is there any simple procedure or button that I have to set up? channels? ...

FANTOM LOCAL ON

FANTOM MIDI
device id 17
Perf Cont Channel 16
kbd patch- 15
pad patch- 10


(transmit)
program change- on
bank select- on
active sensing- on
edit thru- off
soft thru- off

(recieve)
remote keyboard switch- off
the rest are set to on

MPC
MIDI TAB
active track receive channel- ALL
soft thru- OFF
sequence change by prog change- OFF
pad to internal sound- ON

SYNC-
in- off
out- off

CABLES : Akai MPC 1000´s MIDI OUT A to Fantom´s MIDI IN

Thanks paddlock

your welcome, but not much else i can say.. i'm not with my gear atm so i got no more answers sorry... good luck though, i know the pain your going though, it sucks hard! but when you get it together

peace!

Paola, you need to make the 1k respond as if it were a controller dude. I'm not sure how your 1k displays your midi routing, but from what I've read, you'll have to change the track type to "midi" instead of "drum".

Per Akai, they say:

Select this track type when you use the
MPC1000 as a MIDI sequencer with external
MIDI devices (MIDI keyboard
etc…). The MIDI track data is managed
per MIDI note event.

Like I stated before, you'll have to make the 1k act as a controller. I'd put focus on the 1k at the moment considering your fantom isn't the problem.

yeh change 'drum' to 'midi' that's a given.. hope that works for ya!

My 1k´s screen looks like this:


MIDI Tr: Track 1 Velocity: Seq--------Ch
1 Prg: Off 100% PC-------1A

Drum isn´t selected. The rest is as I stated it before.
No sounds from fantom when sequence is recorded. No sync.
Sorry for being so amateur...I´ve tried all, read 1K and manuals tons of times. Searched the web until exhaustion!

check midi cable? might be bad....

If you want to make sure the devices are communicating properly, switch everything to transmit on midi channel 1 only, no "multi" or "all" or "channel 16" or anything of that nature.

You have to make sure the master device toggles through the midi channels only. The recieving device does not physically switch along in terms of what the master device does. The recieving device should be in "performance" or "multi" modes with different or stacked selected sound sources for each midi channel.

As you go through the midi channels on the mpc, you'll hear the different sounds that were selected for each midi channel on the fantom. Midi Machine Control (MMC) and sync options play no part in this equation right now.

Plus, just for technical sakes, disconnect the midi out from the fantom to midi in on the mpc, Just midi out mpc to midi in fantom. Remember, for right now...MIDI CHANNEL ONE only.

No offense, but how long have you dabbled in this stuff...a few days, weeks, months?

Mr D, I just and ONLY have a MIDI OUT A cable running into Fantom´s IN.
No offense as well, but let me explain you something…I´m sure you think I haven´t read neither the Roland Fantom´s manual nor the 1K´s. Probably you think that I haven´t watched a dozen of videos that explain how to sync this a synthesizer with the 1K ( for instance, this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skr9ayp8jpc....which I followed step-by-step, sentence-by-sentence). You might also think that I haven´t read or taken notes from tweakheadz on midi basics for hours at night when I could be with my family just for the love of music. Or you can think that I have no clue of what are the differences between a sound module, a synth or a midi controller. Finally, you can assume that English is not my native language.
Well, if you have any of these assumptions in your mind, you are in a wrong train of thought. Probably the bottom line here is that some people whose native language is other than English and not live in a place where you can ask around how to make two machines communicate may have a lot of problems trying to understand the unpractical and fuzzy instructions from a brand as Roland. But, certainly, I can be the clumsiest, dumbiest chump in the field of MIDI no matter how much expertirse I have in other professional fields. I guess that´s the reason why I ask for help to experts like you.
I apologize if my ignorance on MIDI shocked you. I do my best and I am trying to learn, amigo. Sorry for bothering you with this.

FANTOM LOCAL ON

FANTOM MIDI
device id 17
Perf Cont Channel 16
kbd patch- 15
pad patch- 10


(transmit)
program change- on
bank select- on
active sensing- on
edit thru- off
soft th
(recieve)
remote keyboard switch- off
the rest are set to onru- off
MPC
MIDI TAB
active track receive channel- ALL
soft thru- OFF
sequence change by prog change- OFF
pad to internal sound- ON
SYNC-
in- off
out- off

CABLES : Akai MPC 1000´s MIDI OUT A to Fantom´s MIDI IN
I choose a USER template: grand piano on track 1. Receive channel on PART 1 is checked( a check mark inside a box---without that check mark, fantom will not sound even with the local on) I choose track 1 for midi 1A, program off ( so MPC sends midi commands to Fantom thru this channel) Synth is multitimbral ( performance mode).
NO FANTOM sound when sequence is recorded. Midi cables are right ( I have tried a different pair already).
Thanks
P