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By Phabeon Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:09 pm
been readin the mpc manual but i don't think its gon help me much on this...


so i been searchin the net and google stuff...

basically i want to learn how to lay down drums and came across this post... homie got similar questions like i do...

homie askd how to put drums down and somebody responded wit htis..

Originally posted by H&R
Listen to a song then imitate the drum pattern . . .

Have you ever banged drums out on a table with your hands ? It's the same way except your tappin on pads.

If you don't wanna tap the pads out try putting them in thru the sequencer if you can.

- set the tempo to 80
- then put drums on 1,4,7,11, & 15
- then snares on 5 & 13
- then hats on 3,7,11, & 15

Presto ! a basic and simple drum pattern try that out . . .


now what does alll tht mean in PLAIN english for us slow FOLKK....

all i'm tryin to do is pick up my drum game... i already got the drum samples i jus want to make em musical...

aka i'm usin an mpc 1k n i'm, tappin out my drums but they are NOWWHERE soundin musical like they would on a rap album...

what can i do..

oNe
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By Niceweis914 Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:23 pm
Mess around with ish...it's not a science project and your not going to get a "F" and have to repeat another grade...try messing with the timing correct features, some people seem to love that, also put the click on so you can hear the clicks...those numbers I am assuming are for the clicks...
"AKA" 1st click drum, 4th click drum,7th click drum...etc. Not sure just an educated guess...anyway stop posting these stupid questions and just spend a day pushing every button on the thing and learn everything about it...you dont even have to really read the manual, just search different posts on here to learn some new ish, but dont post your questions until your sure it hasn't been covered and you know it's not a retarded question. (No offense to any retards out there)
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By classic Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:49 pm
sorry man there is no set answer for this to make ur patterns better, basically u need to pratice, some people have better rhythme then others,

to me, it seems like ur one of the cats who is just gonna have to work a little harder then other people to get your patterns on point...

Listen to patterns u like and then copy em

like i said it really comes down to pratice and talent i can sit hear and tell you how i make patterns till im blue in the face but it aint gonna help you come up with your own

class..
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By M.ic P.ro C.rusher Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:56 pm
Yo, no offense, but if you don't even know what a basic kick/snare beat sounds like, then WHAT THE F@CK DID YOU BUY A $1000 SEQUENCER FOR? I mean for real, ANYONE that wants to make beats should at least know what a beat IS before the drop mad paper on equipment.

Go buy Jurrasic 5's Quality Control, peep the track called "Swing Set", it has a section that actually uses the words KICK and SNARE over the kicks and snares. If that don't teach you how to do it, then SELL YOUR MPC and give me all your vinyl.
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By enotide Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:07 pm
Originally posted by H&R
Listen to a song then imitate the drum pattern . . .

Have you ever banged drums out on a table with your hands ? It's the same way except your tappin on pads.

If you don't wanna tap the pads out try putting them in thru the sequencer if you can.

- set the tempo to 80
- then put drums on 1,4,7,11, & 15
- then snares on 5 & 13
- then hats on 3,7,11, & 15

Presto ! a basic and simple drum pattern try that out . . .


These numbers are based on a 16 note pattern (old drum machine style i.e. roland TR 808,909,707, ...etc.)

a simple 4 on the floor beat would be programmed like this:

1= bar 1/ beat 1/ tick 000
5= bar 1/ beat 2/ tick 000
9= bar 1/ beat 3/ tick 000
13= bar 1/ beat 4/ tick 000

This kind of programming is "Step Write Mode", I do my beats more in "Tap Write Mode" it's more like drumming in Tap.

Just experiment and come up with the method that best suits you.

Pe@Ce

By theminsk420 Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:52 pm
M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:then SELL YOUR MPC and give me all your vinyl.



true
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By Phabeon Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:52 pm
aight cool thanks for the good lookinout knowledge on all that..

ike i sed originally NOT lookin for answers more like guidance... but yeah i'ma do this... followin' your ish...

the drums dont' have to be in sync right? that don't matter? like if i have drum sampler from an 80's records n another kick or snare from a 60's record that dont' matter right?

again was jus lookin for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism...
n yall helped me out...aka yall steerin me on how me MYSELF can get to where i want to be... thanks

i jus really thought it would be that easy to bang drums out on the pad n INStANT dope drum track...but i'm learnin...

good lookin out


keep it peace

oNe

p.s. to all those fools oN HERE tellin me to give up my ish..if you would read my posts u would know..basically jus cuz yall paid $1000 for a piece of gear, that don't mean the next mad done so as well..

read my posts suckkas I basically got a FREE mpc 1000 BRAND NEW... i copped $3500 worth of equiptment for $600... alesis micron, AT studio mic, 1202 mixer, sonic pre am.. ect, ect... so STOP the hatin n get to educating...

the search options led me here...
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By jaem Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:02 pm
yippidee fukin doo you got gear at a good price........

you cant even tap out a basic drum pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:


we got a term in the chi for cats like you



VICS
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By classic Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:14 pm
jaem wrote:yippidee fukin doo you got gear at a good price........

you cant even tap out a basic drum pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:


we got a term in the chi for cats like you



VICS


damn man whats with all the hate from cats in this thread,
dont get me wrong ill be the first to click on a dumb ass newb, but honestly i dont see why cats are gettin so angry at this guy, i dont think he was being disrespcful at all..if he got his gear on the low, so be it...

class..
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By Phabeon Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:29 pm
jaem wrote:yippidee fukin doo you got gear at a good price........

you cant even tap out a basic drum pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:


we got a term in the chi for cats like you



VICS
its called learnin hoMIE... thats what i'm tryin to do....

thats all

i sed keep it peace but ay...... thats all you baby...

in the chi town, west chicago 26'th n ashland to be exactll we call joe's like you...

Bozo'z Cirucs


oNe

p.s. wasn't braggin that i got a great steal of a deal...all i was doing was justifyin that I didn't go out and buy a $1000 piece of equipment w/o knowin anything.... like i sed great deal i couldn't pass up...
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By jaem Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:46 pm
26th and ashland.????????......

sound like you spent more time braiding hair on 26th and california
By sparq Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:53 pm
Phabeon wrote:been readin the mpc manual but i don't think its gon help me much on this...


If you don't wanna tap the pads out try putting them in thru the sequencer if you can.

- set the tempo to 80
- then put drums on 1,4,7,11, & 15
- then snares on 5 & 13
- then hats on 3,7,11, & 15

Presto ! a basic and simple drum pattern try that out . . . [/b]


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That's not even a beat. i played this out like 4 times and it don't even sound right. it's not a full bar. what's the time sig on this.


if you really want to make a beat. it doesn't matter the tempo, just make sure the TS is 4/4
i'll take you through 2 bars then you can loop or whatever

kicks 1, 3 & (where & is in between the numbers)
snare 2, 4
hats 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 & (where & is in between the numbers)

By theminsk420 Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:59 pm
yo just for the record im not hatin i was feelin dude on what he said

i mean if u gunna get a mpc and then be lazy and not wanna experiment for yourself you should sell it and do somethin else i dont care how much u spent on it even if u got it as a gift

nobody can tell you how to lace your drums homie i mean u want cats to make them beat for u?

lame

i hope this doesn't start a backlash either cuz im not tryin to be like that but u asked the question not me
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By Phabeon Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:45 pm
jaem wrote:26th and ashland.????????......

sound like you spent more time braiding hair on 26th and california
jeam, son by the way you be talkin YOU sound like YOU stay over by WAcker and Adams... aka as the janitor for all them bar hop fortune 500 mofo's out there....

keep at it son... there's honor in all types of work right?

be easy....

theminsk420 wrote:nobody can tell you how to lace your drums homie i mean u want cats to make them beat for u?

lame
man guy if YOU would do your homework... YOU would have seen i specifically sed ..I"M NOT lookin for somebody to make my beats....its a forum the whole point of it is to come on here and learn from each other..aka get help and input from others..

but we live an we learn right...

orale

be easy yall

i'ma take this info n put it to use...


oNe

oNe