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By Piznal Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:51 am
Do you need a DJ mixer to play records at there best possible quality?

I have a YAMAHA MG 10/2 running as my mixer. I have the turntable running from the mixer into the receiver. But the sound quality is sh*t. I have to put the gain switch all the way up and both volumes(channel & main) to the max. If I put it to normal settings, I can't really hear much. What am I doing wrong. Here is what I tried so far.

Used rca cables from the tables to the receiver.
Also used rca adapters to go from the table(out) to 1/4 cable in to mixer.

I tried other things on the channel and they work fine. eg. mpc1k and guitar. Do I need a dj mixer? please help, its pissing me off.
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By krang Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:58 am
Is the turntable going into a phono input?

yeah maby a preamp w/ eq would be good
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By Lampdog Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:59 am
the turntable ouputs are for a "phono" input on your mixer maybe, NOT line in.

Try connecting tt's to a "phono in" on your mixer. That's what it sounds like your problem may be.

By Piznal Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:52 am
I tried to plug the tt in all of the jacks. I tried that before I posted this message. If I buy a DJ mixer, will it already have a preamp installed in the unit?

By the way, thanks for the help!
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By Lampdog Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:22 am
Why don't you check the specs of the mixer "before" you buy and not just hope that it has a pre-amp or other features that you might need. Do you homework so you don't come up short.

Try to figure out EVERYTHING you will need the mixer to do, check the specs of it forward backward and forward again to make sure it does what you need, then buy it.

No matter what anyone tells you, that ULTIMATE buying decision is on you.

By Piznal Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:42 pm
Totally agree with you lampdog! I have never felt like such a dumbass in my life. I am usually the first one to scrutinize and analyze before I make any purchases. With that said, I am learning as I go. Common sense told me that I could run the tt into the mixer and it should work. Nope, not happening. I run into minor problems in the way as I build my little station. It's hard because everything cost alot of money and if something goes wrong usually I would have to wait for weeks until I can buy new equipment. But whatever, live and learn right?
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By M.ic P.ro C.rusher Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:47 pm
You can just buy a pre amp instead of a whole new mixer. Should cost less.
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By dopedragon Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:32 pm
make sure you get something with a PHONO preamp.

basically you need something that will reverse the RIAA frequency curve that was applied to the recording when pressed to vinyl. i think they do this in order to kill the bass frequencies somewhat to avoid having the stylus jumping off the record.

all dj mixers with phono inputs should have one in them, the quality of which will need to be discerned on an individual basis.

you can also purchase stand-alone phono preamps depending on what you want/need.

but, yes, plugging a phono line into a line input will sound like mud.


peace.dope.
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By Lampdog Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:40 am
also, nowadays SOME tt's have line outputs, that allows you to plug the tt's directly into the line in of a mixer, check your tt specs to see which one your tt is putting out. Physically match that to your mixers input.
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By Fung45 Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:56 am
You have to run the turntable into a phono input
Phono is a conversion process to bring back alot of the bass signal that vinyl can't capture.
If your mixer doesn't say phono where you're plugging in your tables, you will lose this conversion and everything will sound really quiet.
If you have numark tables, make sure the switch on the bottom is on line.
If you have other tables you need a mixer with phono preamp.
Also remember, adding gain isn't the same as adding volume, as soon as you go past 0.0 gain your sound signal is no longer pure, you are adding to the signal, which can result in sh!tty maxed out sounding samples.
Also make sure your tables are grounded.
Don't rush out to buy something you don't need. When it comes to studio equipment don't keep buying mid-quality equipment in steps, go for borrowing stuff from friends for free, or buy cheap used stuff while you save up for something that will last you forever. My DJ mixer is a piece but I'm just borrowing from a friend while I learn to spin records in my bedroom for now. Once I have the cashflow I'll go get that nice shiney Rane mixer.
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By jonathan morris Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:16 pm
is the turntable grounded?

By ENT Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:23 pm
Just get a Rolls phono amp...run you about 40 to 50 and straight into the mpc.....cheaper then buying a new mixer
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By enotide Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:26 pm
You can try this, it might do the job.

It's a Pyle phono pre amp, for about $20.00

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By Piznal Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:31 pm
How important is it for the tables to be grounded? I bought turntables that didn't come with it's OEM cables. I bought after market cables(monster) specifically made for the turns. Problem is, I saw the littie dial where the ground cable is suppose to go but the monster cables did not have a ground connector coming out of it. Should I ground them?