ayo break down the mappin beats out and choppin in notes?

aight before yall murder me KNOW THAT all I be using is jus a turntable and an mpc 1000...nothing else.. i do be havin some ova gear but i'm tryin to get on with 1 piece of gear before i mess wit the rest...

but uhm i'm always strivin for knowledge and got earnin to learn so i came across this tidbit of info that has me tryin to "see" it like that.. I'm not gettin it but maybe yall can clear it up for me cuz i tried a search and it jus let to more questions..

Sirflex01 wrote:After finding the song I import the song into Sound Forge and "chop" it, the reason I chop it is because when I begin my slicing process in Recycle the shorter the song is the greater the possibility is that i'll be able to map each slice out on my keyboard. In other words if the song that I find is 4:00 minutes long and i want 4 second slices that's equal to 100 slices..there are only 88 keys on my keyboard so this isn't gonna work...So what I do is I divide that 4 minute song into into something smaller..In my song I took the first 40 seconds of the song and "chopped" it..after I "chopped it in sound forge i saved it to my desktop.

1. aight so whats he sayin by 88 keys on his keyboard? i'm takin it as he is assignin the samples? to each key on his keyboard? obviously i'm assumin this is thru MIDI? but to what end? i.e. whats the point or reason we would want to do this.. like my friend got an alesis micron that he left at my crib, am I missin out by not using it? somebody school me on the logic behind this.. or what am i missin here?


2. WHAT THE BLOOD CLOT are these guys talkin about?

Antonym wrote:

Flip Wilson wrote:I had the same problem before. What i do is i count how many bars the sample is. I make sure its exactly 1, 2, 3, 4 etc... bars long then i just use the zoning feature and chop it into how many notes there are in that sample. For example if its 2 bars ill chop it into 8 or if its 4 bars ill chop it into 16. This should help you out a bit.

that still presents the problem of a bar chop that has multiple notes in it. the timing of a lot of music doesn't conform well with the rigidity of a perfect loop. if you do this you may end up with awkward timing on some tracks.

what people (at least what i) mean by chopping to note is making your chops as small as logically reasonable, that is, literally 1 note per 1 chop.

3. what is a note? and what is choppin by notes mean?

4. what is the difference between #3 and what this guys says.. or choppin into single hits the same as choppin into notes? which hopefully yall answer #3 so i know whats up...

Spectre AC-130 wrote:like above

use the same sample if you can but chop it up into single hits.
i find the hi-hats aren't always the crispest so you might want to throw some others
in there that are suitable.

yo please shin the light for a brother..

thank you all

i'm lookin forward to yalls answers


be eaZy

1. the reason for assigning each chop to a key is for avalibility and creativity. you can do alot more with 88 small chops. plus with them being layed across a keyboard it makes the workflow smoother than having to switch banks (like on the MPC). i would use the micron for bass and the occasional rogue sound but that's about it!

2. when you chop you should always do it by sound. chopping in equal part intervals will be a waste of time

3 & 4. chopping individual notes is exactly what it sounds like. you chop a single sound out of a loop or phrase or drum break etc... let's say i'm listening to Usher "You Got It Bad" and i decide that i gotta have that snare hit. well i just sample a small portin of the song that has that snare in it. i proceed to chop out that single snare hit and viola!!!, i have a new snare hit.

Macaiah wrote:1. the reason for assigning each chop to a key is for avalibility and creativity. you can do alot more with 88 small chops. plus with them being layed across a keyboard it makes the workflow smoother than having to switch banks (like on the MPC). i would use the micron for bass and the occasional rogue sound but that's about it!

2. when you chop you should always do it by sound. chopping in equal part intervals will be a waste of time

3 & 4. chopping individual notes is exactly what it sounds like. you chop a single sound out of a loop or phrase or drum break etc... let's say i'm listening to Usher "You Got It Bad" and i decide that i gotta have that snare hit. well i just sample a small portin of the song that has that snare in it. i proceed to chop out that single snare hit and viola!!!, i have a new snare hit.

d*m son much props for the feedback and insight.. everything you jus told me is what i pretty much thought or i should say thats how the idea i got in my head about it.. but thing is... i'm still NOT "gettin" it...

I think what i need is to see it happen for myself.. feel me, like i need to see somebody do it like that.. know i'm sayin like i'm a visual learn type cat...

me on the other hand well i'm rockin the mpc 1000 wit the original operating system on it....

so i get everything from my records collection ya feel me...

i get my samples from records

i get my drums and snares from samples..

so in basics i'm already choppin by note? that wut u sayin right..

from the ish i read on these forums it seems like the new os on the mpc be makin life easier huh? cuz all this grid chop or grid edit or zonin or whatever the buck.. it seems like it be replacin hard work a nia put in himself or again i might be seein it "wrong".. but yeah aight then..

cool

be eaZy

i don't know anything about the 1000 because i have the 2kxl. if you're already choppin ya drums up then you already get it. just keep doin' what you doin', everything will come in time homie!