How do you guys feel about leaving a sample untouched?

I come from a mentality that if I find a sample, and it has all of the pieces it already needs as a great piece of music, and I can't do anything to enhance it or add my touch, I leave it alone.

I have a few gems held hostage in my MPC for this reason. However I was going through some stuff at a friend's house and I pulled up this piece I had chpped and sequenced. He lit up and went on about how it's fire and it's ready to go as is...

Then I got to thinking about the few Hip Hop tracks that I have heard that are mostly untouched, and I thought about this recent black milk track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMldtCNyZ0

I don't wanna be like "well if they do it then I can" but my sample is pretty dope I hate to have it locked up forever. Sometimes I'll get the ball rolling musically in my head many months later after I've left it alone but idk....

How do you guys feel about it?

hook me up with your sample

ill flip it

Flipping a sample just because you can isnt the only or right way to sample, plenty of tunes use samples that are exactly the same as the original and havent been touched and sound like they were made for the song...

its up to you man..

i find if a sample fits, use it...if it doesnt, chop it...

I used to feel like I have to chop real small and tweak evry single setting possible, to be original or what ever, but latley, I don't go too crazy with enstranging things too much. Kind of a bit more of a mixing stuff, maybe a DJs mentality (eventhough I never DJed)..
Meaning, larger chops, and leaving the sound as it is (nearly).. mostly Filters EQs and Compression.

So.. yeah.. whatever works best.

And to those who think, working with large chops is lazy.. It is a challenge in it self.

part of hiphop is looping shit... lets face it.... sampling isn't just "chopping and layering".. its also finding that ill break, and mixing it the right way..

this convo has been had sooo many times

IMO finding a sample that is good as is is godsend. You should use it as is. You still have work to do: Find a MC that is worth rappin over it.

Best example for this kind of sample (and the kind of MC you'll need )

http://www.whosampled.com/sample/view/2 ... he%20Life/

peace

es-k wrote:part of hiphop is looping ****... lets face it.... sampling isn't just "chopping and layering".. its also finding that ill break, and mixing it the right way..

this convo has been had sooo many times

I like that perspective.
Ill track by O.C. too

I agree with es-k.

personally I think it depends on your style, or how you feel about the sample you've just found. that's why I love sample flipping battles! it's awesome hearing how many different ways people will flip the same sample or song.

my favs are usually those samples that when used or cut in the right way set a whole new mood to the song you are creating compared to the original.

a good example could be this one:
busta rhymes - put your hands where my eyes can see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaT1dwkOw0A

seals & crofts - sweet green fields
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z8yk29lA8g

hiphop aside, I really enjoy how people like daft punk or the prodigy use samples to create brand new songs...

ansiaaa wrote:I agree with es-k

my favs are usually those samples that when used or cut in the right way set a whole new mood to the song you are creating compared to the original.

oh yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l35hUCKgyA
the bass/guitar loops are great here

I'm a lazy **** so i prefer to leave as is with a few effects.

I can't believe no one's mentioned Or posted links for David Axelrod - The Edge and Masta Ace - No Regrets.

that green fields thing is *****n sick!

mastasteez wrote:I'm a lazy **** so i prefer to leave as is with a few effects.

I can't believe no one's mentioned Or posted links for David Axelrod - The Edge and Masta Ace - No Regrets.

What are these effects you speak of?

The ones which come inside my MPC 500

mastasteez wrote:The ones which come inside my MPC 500

Ohh, then there is nothing that you have that my FL Studio doesnt have. I guess I will have to experiment more with my effects and get more creative.