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By Morris Cody Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:26 pm
I'm doing some research and compiling opinions.

So I ask what records and artist would you say in your opinion are a cornerstone of sampling for hip hop?

Some pretty obvious choices we could agree on is work from James Brown, Bob James and Nautilus and so on.

So what are you guys opinions?
By Doc333 Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:49 pm
Mablib is my #1, most of the "golden era" use a lot of samples, Pete Rock, Premier, J. Dilla, hurricane is often overlooked for some reason as a producer, he did most of the classic beastie boys albums, usually uses like 10-15 samples per song!
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:03 pm
I thought that the OP was referring to records/artists to sample from, instead of records/artists using samples in their work.

If talking about samples being used in their work, Beastie Boys Paul's Boutique has to be up there as one of the innovative early sampling albums.

The classic Beasties albums, to me, are Paul's Boutique and Check Your Head, but they were way before Hurricane was involved on a production level, rather then just being their DJ.

Half of Paul's Boutique was apparently all the work of The Dust Brothers, the Beasties just rapped over already their already produced tunes, the other half they produced together, Check Your Head was produced by the Beasties and Mario Caldato Jr.

Hurricane's first album was pretty tough though, quite liked it.
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By Star One Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:06 pm
This is an honest awnser, no dumb forum shit and scarcasam here.

Anything that has not been touched. Things people would normally overlook. Anything you can flip properly and no one can name it, put your samples on blast, or get sued over.

I say this because aside from the end result of sounding good, you gotta be orginal and not get caught.

The less success or attention the orginal recording or artist had, the better.

It can be crap cheesy dollar bin records. That anyone else would laugh at. As long as you have soul, you can make real crap, real good.

I added that bit of extra reinforcement for the sake of whatever your research is for. Supportive statements n ting.

Hope this helped.
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By peterpiper Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:24 pm
StarOne wrote:This is an honest awnser, no dumb forum shit and scarcasam here.

Anything that has not been touched. Things people would normally overlook. Anything you can flip properly and no one can name it, put your samples on blast, or get sued over.

I say this because aside from the end result of sounding good, you gotta be orginal and not get caught.

The less success or attention the orginal recording or artist had, the better.

It can be crap cheesy dollar bin records. That anyone else would laugh at. As long as you have soul, you can make real crap, real good.

I added that bit of extra reinforcement for the sake of whatever your research is for. Supportive statements n ting.

Hope this helped.



+1000

the funny thing is

Morris Cody wrote:
Like I would say Melvin Bliss "Synthetic Substitution" would be one.


this is a good example of a relative unknown singer at his time but it also is a genius song IMO.

Its really cool to sample crap and make gold out of it but it's also cool to use an already great song and give respect.

As an sampling artist you can choose what kind of feelings you have about the original artist.
You can say
"your shit was so whack, I had to kill it wit da SP1200"

or you can say

"I'm so damn genius. I even make gold out of your crap song"

or you can say

"Your song is so genius and timeless that I had to sample it to show my respect and let the world know what artist they overlooked"

Who would know Melvin Bliss when noone had sampled him.

peace