MPC 2500 vs MPC Renaissance

Menco wrote:With the Ren it is easier to integrate it in a software based setup.

2500 works as a standalone.

With the Ren you can use the computer screen or the LCD screen on the controller to operate the MPC.

The 2500 only has the LCD screen.

For the Ren you also need a stable computer to run the MPC Ren software.

The 2500 will also need a recording device (DAW on stable computer or hardware recorder) if you want to record or mix your beats. Theoretically it's also possible to mix down and bounce a WAV file with the 2500, but it's more limited than mixing inside a DAW or on a multitrack recorder.

so with the 2500 i cant record my mix's ?? i didnt know that listen bro i already ordered the 2500 can you make me a list for the stuff i need and what do you suggest to use ?? and some links for the important applications ( mac ) i would need to have a good result and work comfortably.

sololtd wrote:

Menco wrote:With the Ren it is easier to integrate it in a software based setup.

2500 works as a standalone.

With the Ren you can use the computer screen or the LCD screen on the controller to operate the MPC.

The 2500 only has the LCD screen.

For the Ren you also need a stable computer to run the MPC Ren software.

The 2500 will also need a recording device (DAW on stable computer or hardware recorder) if you want to record or mix your beats. Theoretically it's also possible to mix down and bounce a WAV file with the 2500, but it's more limited than mixing inside a DAW or on a multitrack recorder.

so with the 2500 i cant record my mix's ?? i didnt know that listen bro i already ordered the 2500 can you make me a list for the stuff i need and what do you suggest to use ?? and some links for the important applications ( mac ) i would need to have a good result and work comfortably.

What's he's saying is that most of the time people have a hardware MPC hooked up to a Mac or PC. Often through a USB or Firewire audio interface. Some people just send the MPC's stereo mix to the DAW recording program in the computer, some people use the individual outs if their audio interface has enough inputs. (For separating a kick track from a hi hat track for example).

Usually the audio interface have a set of MIDI I/O and you attach the MPC to those. (Or get a separate USB to MIDI cable for about $30). Then you can have the MPC pads trigger stuff in the computer if you want. You can also sync the recording program to the MPC so that they play/record together once you have the cabling and settings done on the MPC and your software.

The last part of what Menco said is that you can export a WAV recording inside of the MPC and then use the USB on the MPC to drag that file over to a computer, without having to directly record to the computer.

Tell us what computer you have and any software you may already have and it will easier for us to recommend specific things.

Menco wrote:With the Ren it is easier to integrate it in a software based setup.

2500 works as a standalone.

With the Ren you can use the computer screen or the LCD screen on the controller to operate the MPC.

The 2500 only has the LCD screen.

For the Ren you also need a stable computer to run the MPC Ren software.

The 2500 will also need a recording device (DAW on stable computer or hardware recorder) if you want to record or mix your beats. Theoretically it's also possible to mix down and bounce a WAV file with the 2500, but it's more limited than mixing inside a DAW or on a multitrack recorder.

You can convert individual midi tracks to audio tracks(WAV files)in the 2500 and import and mix them in your DAW.

MPCWeapon1 wrote:

Menco wrote:With the Ren it is easier to integrate it in a software based setup.

2500 works as a standalone.

With the Ren you can use the computer screen or the LCD screen on the controller to operate the MPC.

The 2500 only has the LCD screen.

For the Ren you also need a stable computer to run the MPC Ren software.

The 2500 will also need a recording device (DAW on stable computer or hardware recorder) if you want to record or mix your beats. Theoretically it's also possible to mix down and bounce a WAV file with the 2500, but it's more limited than mixing inside a DAW or on a multitrack recorder.

You can convert individual midi tracks to audio tracks(WAV files)in the 2500 and import and mix them in your DAW.

Point is, you will need either an additional computer/ DAW or recorder.

sololtd wrote:

Menco wrote:can you make me a list for the stuff i need and what do you suggest to use ?? and some links for the important applications ( mac ) i would need to have a good result and work comfortably.

At the moment I'm using garageband on my mac, still waiting for Logic. For recording it's ok. The fx are ok too. Use whatever you need to use. For basic stuff garagband is allright. Want to take it to a higher level then most people step up to logic and protools and stuff.

1st of all i wanna thank all of you for such an important information and support,
i'm using MACBOOK 4GB of ram and 2.53 intel core 2 duo and the mpc 2500 ( which i ordered today and should arrive in 2 - 3 days ). so let me know which applications i should download. so i can use the mpc perfectly with the computer to compuse and produce and make samples, and same way to use the mpc standalone to preform. use different tracks .. etc

sololtd wrote:so let me know which applications i should download. so i can use the mpc perfectly with the computer to compuse and produce and make samples, and same way to use the mpc standalone to preform. use different tracks .. etc

You might want to look elsewhere for that info, from the sounds of your last post 'Getting Started' is a good place to go. This forum is for making comparisons, and you appear to have made your choice in the MPC2500. Good luck with that...

sololtd wrote:1st of all i wanna thank all of you for such an important information and support,
i'm using MACBOOK 4GB of ram and 2.53 intel core 2 duo and the mpc 2500 ( which i ordered today and should arrive in 2 - 3 days ). so let me know which applications i should download. so i can use the mpc perfectly with the computer to compuse and produce and make samples, and same way to use the mpc standalone to preform. use different tracks .. etc

THE most important thing for an MPC2500 is the JJOSXL software:
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/mpc2500/

Unleash the power!

Guys finally today i had my MPC2500 and the surprise is ( ignorance prove) that when i went to the store the guy showed me the catalogs to pick up the product i want, i found the akai mpc2500 black normal one and i ordered it, and today when i went to pick it up i found its the special edition which i was looking for but i couldnt found hehe this is one of the biggest stores in city. anyway now actually i dont know from where i cant start i feel there is something missing how can i plugin the mpc with my macbook and for now can i start loading some stuff on my mpc ?? and should i install the JJOSXL directly on the mpc it wont work with the system it already have !! guys i need some tips here before i start using this machine lol i dont want to delete something by mistake or something. which is the most important tips to dont fall in the same mistakes you had before
Thanks

How do you want to hook up your mpc with your mac?

If you want to hook them up through midi you will need either an interface with a midi input or a midi/usb adapter.

If you want to record the mpc's outs into the mac you will need an audio interface.

You can also hook them up through usb. The computer will recognise your mpc as an external disk, so you can easily drag and drop files between those two. Make sure the files are in the right format since the mpc will only read 16bit 44.1khz wav files.

And don't forget to read the manual first. It will cover all your questions.
I would suggest to at least download the free JJOS version. It has less bugs and a few extra features. This version is similar to the original akai OS so that way it might be easier to master the basics of the mpc first.
Off course you can also upgrade to the latest JJOS version right away, but the online manuals for that one might be hard to decode when you just started to use an mpc.

os128xl/os2xl have some power features that are unique to any MPC or DAW.

my favorite is the fact that they are fully controllable from external midi. this is HUGE and completely underutilized.

lengthy actions and processes can be automated and triggered by one button (this is most easily done with ableton as a daw - simply load MIDI macros into clips pointing to your MPC midi input and you are good to go).

jimmie wrote:

sololtd wrote:1st of all i wanna thank all of you for such an important information and support,
i'm using MACBOOK 4GB of ram and 2.53 intel core 2 duo and the mpc 2500 ( which i ordered today and should arrive in 2 - 3 days ). so let me know which applications i should download. so i can use the mpc perfectly with the computer to compuse and produce and make samples, and same way to use the mpc standalone to preform. use different tracks .. etc

THE most important thing for an MPC2500 is the JJOSXL software:
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/mpc2500/

Unleash the power!

Jimmie should i setup the JJOSXL ?? if yes .. which version should i setup and how ??
and does it have any bugs !! post me some links please for instructions for setup ..

Thanks

He gave you a link and there is a JJOS forum here where all your questions can be answered, don't jack the thread bro...