1k vs 2kXL

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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By jimbafrosty Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:07 pm
Oh nice I didn't know their was sample comparisons on here I will search for them Forsure. Thanks for your reply man I apriciate it a lot thank you.

Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By JVC Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:34 pm
Funkydrops wrote:Again.
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No, truly... don't let you be fooled, they have a slightly different set of features being from different generations and different sets of components, of course BUT none of them has an appreciable effect on the final sound, which would be dependent on the settings/tweaking you apply during the WHOLE process.
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I totally agree.
If you are looking for hardware sampler that sound good in dry, it does not have to be MPC anyway. (Akai S series, Emu E6400, for instance are more powerful, in terms of sample processing options and build-in effects.)
For the sound difference of MPC 1000 and 2000XL, what Funkydrops stated is right. Both sampler won't color samples much (which is not a bad thing at all.)

Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By jimbafrosty Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:06 pm
Thanks for the reply. I gues if I end up getting one its go ba be the 1k

Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By STAXS Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:59 pm
I own a 1k with jjos1 and phat pads,my friend owns an xl which is dope no doubt but I would have to say grab the 1k
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By bicedidit Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:39 pm
both machines color the sounds. any machine is gonna have its own 'color'.

the sound differences are MINUSCULE. that should not be the deciding factor in your purchase.

and to be honest, even tho a lot of ppl claim they can hear the difference.........its bullsh*t. i mean, the difference may be audible but not to the point where one sounds better than the other, plus 'better' is subjective.

Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By jimbafrosty Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:11 pm
thanks for the replys people i really do appreciate it

and sorry for bring up a very frequent question lol

i know that feeling
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By Lampdog Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:09 am
bicedidit wrote:both machines color the sounds. any machine is gonna have its own 'color'.

the sound differences are MINUSCULE. that should not be the deciding factor in your purchase.

and to be honest, even tho a lot of ppl claim they can hear the difference.........its bullsh*t. i mean, the difference may be audible but not to the point where one sounds better than the other, plus 'better' is subjective.

:nod:
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By peeping tom Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:22 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
jimbafrosty wrote:one of the reason's im interested in getting a mp is for "THAT famous mpc sound" which it seems the the 1k dosent do which is why i asked this question.


You know, when the 2000XL came out, people said it didn't have the classic MPC sound like the 3000 or the 60. Now people consider it to have the classic sound. In 10 years time, people will be moaning about the new 48 bit MPC8000-XL and how it hasn't got the cool retro 16 bit sound of the 1000. :mrgreen:

If you want a grimy hip hop sound, get an SP1200 or MPC60 for the gritty low bitrate sampling quality. Otherwise, get any MPC for the workflow it provides. You can get any sound you want from a 1000 and have the bonus of JJOS2XL. But TBH, I'd go for the 2500 with JJOSXL - better pads, tilting screen etc.

I currently have a 2500, an XL, a 5000, a 1000, a 500 and a 2000 all hooked up to the same system. All sound great and I doubt I could tell the difference blindfolded.

Don't get too focussed on mystical 'sound' and 'swing' - MPCs work because of the intuitive way they are designed and built.

And trust me, the XL does not have a 'gritty sound' - whoever told you that was talking rubbish.



i been tossing up whether to grab a 2xl to use with my 1k. i imagine they are quite easy to daisychain?

i want to use my 1k for samples (wih its editing capabilities) and the 2xl for drums and percs

good idea?
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By Lampdog Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:26 am
Why can't you do this all within the 1k? No need to spend money when the 1k is perfectly capable of handling that.
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By peeping tom Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:55 am
Lampdog wrote:Why can't you do this all within the 1k? No need to spend money when the 1k is perfectly capable of handling that.



i been reaching my poly limit A LOT lately. :P


either that or go up to a 2500. better make my mind up quick!
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By Lampdog Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:27 am
peeping tom wrote:i been reaching my poly limit A LOT lately. :P

I see says the blind man.
Particular Cat wrote:go up to a 2500.

Yeah, I'd say that same thing if 2kxl vs 2500.
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Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By peeping tom Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:29 am
Nym wrote:want some help saving polyphony? read these two threads.
32 voices is a lot, even with crossfade looping (2x voice use)

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=105952
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=85466&start=0

you'd probably be better off scooping up a computer


cheers for the help man, but i have a computer, the idea of using one to make beats is **** since i work on one all day.

I will usually mono my main sample, but i think the problems i have for the one i was speaking above was that i had programmed in 12 tracks from my rack synth. lol

once i had them all reocrded and in mono it was fine. Guess it ALWAYS pays to double check your ish!

Re: 1k vs 2kXL

By dtaa pla muk Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:50 pm
but i have a computer, the idea of using one to make beats is **** since i work on one all day.


i'm a computer tech at a high school. i spend all day behind a desk - it is a miracle of science that i am not a gigantic fat slob haha.

properly integrated, you forget you're even using the computer, plus you end up with irreplaceably valuable audio/technical skills by becoming familiar with DAW software and the VSTi format.
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