1. yes indeed akai are completely incompetent when it comes to releasing software, especially on commitments...hence the need for IMMINENT BS (poor mpc5k users who didnt even get any imminence - nuff said)
Say WHAT??!!!.. 
they software was READY, signed and Sealed...but they were afraid to release the date . you cant be serious
2. my point on realeasing buggy software is....why release software on 1st of october if you KNOW of bugs in it.....about an hour after it was available you open a topic with several known bugs...your on the beta tester team, right? so i guess you found these buys already
id prefer a release 15th of oct with the known bugs resolved....now all of you users will have to wait for namm for the next version
3. you are missing the point entirely, my fault, i should have been more clear...by 'own' i mean show up akai to be amatures when it comes to marketing, releasing a product, valuing thier customers yada yada.....first of all they released a product WAY before it was ready, a year later theres still a discussion about the legendary mpc3k circuitry...iconic workflow of the mpc ren (WITH A MOUSE), the vintage plugin fiasco (still ongoing for the studio users), transferring the license, elements being a rehashed product with a lousy interface.as for the mixer....well you know.
dont get me wrong...this is the best thing that could have happened for the Ren users since whack eye needs to step up their gaming skills...something they havent really been doing lately...as indicated by the Elements fiasco where andrew makes a 20 min video churning out the same gel-boy ICONIC LOOK AND FEEL BUZZWORDS hes been using for a year.
although i must admit in a way i look forward to namm...i wonder what lies daniel and andrew and can come up with this time -
the ren being completey bug free being one of my favourites. SMH.
so to sum up....in regard to this thread.....no one really cares if whack eye had planned to release this on oct 1st....they care about it being a stable product which they can use
i disagree with you on the point there will always be bugs.....most software i use doesnt crash and has very little to no bugs....i guess i am using MATURE software.
DJ Hellfire wrote:they hate to see on here! Dan was actually going to allow the forum to be told after IMSTA but was reminded what happened with the last release promise that didn't happen! 
2. There's always gonna be bugs. Luckily this time, there are no major ones!
3. Someone's always gonna "own" the older product with a new product. Every time a new product comes out, someone claims it "owns" the older one! 
The "truth" is, NI woulda been completely **** stupid to NOT put out something that was a good competitor for the Ren or something that was equal to their previous line, given their experience especially. They already did this with the MK2 controller! At the end of the day, the Studio is still going to have the Maschine workflow. So ultimately it will still come down to whether you prefer the Maschine workflow or the MPC workflow. Everything else is just bells and whistles! 
