AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By Luigi Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:42 am
Why u think Akai is asking all these people on the internets about suggested featuers etc? just so they can not implement them on the Ren?

This whole hybrid hardware/software thing is really a new thing. NI did their thing with the Maschine but outher comapnies gonna want to pick up on that trail. cause theres whare the market is today. Its only natural for Akai, one of the worlds leading drummachine makers, to do the same.

and if u comare the Ren specs with the Maschine u can instantly see that the Ren is made more for people who still want to use hardware. with the 4 midi outs, 16 knops etc.
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By Blue Haze Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:44 am
reeloy wrote:....touche, touche...don't get me wrong....

all i'm sayin' is.....mpc's are with no doubt music instruments....

like a guitar.....

and not bounded to a style at all....


you get funky hip hop out of it....you get funky techno out of it....you get funky industrial out of...no wait a second, there is no such thing like funky industrial.....but whatsoever.....you name it....



All of this PC talk is BS..... Fact of the matter is hip hop music was born out of sampling and drum machines mainly. The early djs of the hip hop genre were pioneers of the various sampling techniques that the latter forms of electronic music use in the production from house, techno, d&b, trance and you name it using drum machines, records, synths and whatever. A lot of people don't know their history and get caught up some kind of complex. Remember the Derrick Mays, Jack Farleys and others came from the same dj roots (urban clubs and neighborhoods as the Jay dees, Premos, Marly Marls) they just took the music in new directions and faster tempos.


Shit back in the late 80's to early 90's there wasn't even an distinction between the two. It was just hip hop and club music playing on the same floor.
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:54 am
JAH wrote:
MONSTA wrote:i know two people that are beta testers one of them said its done .. the other one said mpc r has a long way to catch up with ni machine ... that's why you don't see any new videos . i mean come on .. like i said what u saw @ nam is what your gona get ..

I heard the opposite.
what you willing to bet ??? name your price ??
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By JAH Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:08 am
MONSTA wrote:
JAH wrote:
MONSTA wrote:i know two people that are beta testers one of them said its done .. the other one said mpc r has a long way to catch up with ni machine ... that's why you don't see any new videos . i mean come on .. like i said what u saw @ nam is what your gona get ..

I heard the opposite.
what you willing to bet ??? name your price ??

I wouldn't take your money.

But I will humor you. In what ways does the MPC Ren have a long way to catch up? We have all ready seen the MPC Ren's Program Editing screen shots which show a deeper level of programming than Maschine, DAW and classic MPC track-styled recording, Qlinks mapped to up to 96 parameters on one screen, mixer channel strips, pitchshift/time stretch sample editing tools, etc.
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:15 pm
I heard the opposite.[/quote] what you willing to bet ??? name your price ??[/quote]
I wouldn't take your money.

But I will humor you. In what ways does the MPC Ren have a long way to catch up? We have all ready seen the MPC Ren's Program Editing screen shots which show a deeper level of programming than Maschine, DAW and classic MPC track-styled recording, Qlinks mapped to up to 96 parameters on one screen, mixer channel strips, pitchshift/time stretch sample editing tools, etc.[/quote] lol .. you dont even know me .. and from what i see . dont like me ahahah ... so why not take my money ??? enuff taling lets bet .. im sick of you blaaaah blaaah blah ... and if you dont wana bet money , we can bet what ever name your price .... btw i like how you have my homies son . as your avatar .. do you know who that is ?? i keep asking you but u seeem 2 . avoid my question ... i cant really see his .. pic that clear .. but im 99% thats him ?? btw all thoes features can be done with abelton live .. and any mpc out thier all ready ... now bet me now !!!!!!! :twisted: :arrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yule390vLg0 the lights are dope right ??? but at the end of the day its stil a house ahahaha and no that not the same simon game video lol ..
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:43 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:
MONSTA wrote:btw all thoes features can be done with abelton live .. and any mpc out thier all ready ...


But they can't be done with the MPC and Ableton together!
i dont understand what you are sayin ... and im not being funny ???? look the mind is powerful .. thiers no such word as cant ... all the mpc ren is .. AKAI MPD with abrlton live .. and a fake sound card ..... mpd abetlon live and m box = mpc ren .... and who ever said dont bite the hand that feeds you .. well god feeds me and hard work .. and i pay akai thier pay check so i feed them ... and if they dont do what we want quess whos not eating .. i know it ant me ... :evil: btw can some one anser me this .. thiers about 40 people in this forum .. and about 15 people who talk .. why not give them a discont . i mean man some of the them been on this form for over 8 years or more .. with all the free promo yall give them .. what have they gave you ?? the beat battle should have free gave aways ...
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By DJ Hellfire Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:20 pm
MONSTA wrote:
DJ Hellfire wrote:
MONSTA wrote:btw all thoes features can be done with abelton live .. and any mpc out thier all ready ...


But they can't be done with the MPC and Ableton together!
i dont understand what you are sayin ... and im not being funny ???? look the mind is powerful .. thiers no such word as cant ... all the mpc ren is .. AKAI MPD with abrlton live .. and a fake sound card ..... mpd abetlon live and m box = mpc ren .... and who ever said dont bite the hand that feeds you .. well god feeds me and hard work .. and i pay akai thier pay check so i feed them ... and if they dont do what we want quess whos not eating .. i know it ant me ... :evil: btw can some one anser me this .. thiers about 40 people in this forum .. and about 15 people who talk .. why not give them a discont . i mean man some of the them been on this form for over 8 years or more .. with all the free promo yall give them .. what have they gave you ?? the beat battle should have free gave aways ...



What I mean is you can't use Ableton to edit your midi notes and samples that are sequenced in the MPC. All you can do is use the MPC to control/trigger Ableton. With the Renaissance, you can use the computer to edit midi and samples that are actual inside the MPC, since the Renaissance software is basically the MPC.

Ableton cannot give your MPC more than 8 individual outputs for tracking into a DAW. The Renaissance software will likely give you at least 32 individual outs, just like Maschine has, or 64 like Reason has.

Ableton will not let you put an effect or VST on every single MPC sample unless you track the audio into Ableton. Without tracking, Ableton only allows you to have effects on 8 mono channels of your MPC, and that's if your interface has 8 free inputs for your MPC, and if your MPC even has 8 outs. With the Ren, you can have effects on all your samples without having to track anything.

Basically, an MPC functions merely as an MPD with any software, including Ableton. With the Renaissance, you will have true MPC/software integration on a level much higher than simple midi messages being sent back and forth. It's gonna be the same as any MPC you're ever used. Only difference is it's brain/computer is external and you can use a mouse, VST's, and the biggest screen you can afford with it.

As for the other shit you said, if Akai's products (or lack of products) affects your pockets then you are doing something wrong. You shouldn't "need" an MPC to make your money. There are plenty of competing products that can do the same shit.

As for the promo shit, what did they give me you ask? I gave them money and I got a drum machine that I like, just like any other product on the market. Listen, everything you buy and enjoy, you promote to some degree. When you enjoy a purchase, you tell people about and talk about it. From the name brand clothes and shoes you buy, to the electronics in your house, to the car you drive. It why things like car and motorcycle clubs exist or book clubs. You may not be blatantly promoting it and running add campaigns and shit, but you represent it. Doesn't mean the manufacturer owes you anything, especially when you own and talk about that very same manufacturers competitor's products. It's just the way shit is. I have like 30 pairs of Jordans for example, but that doesn't mean Nike owes me shit!

What you don't understand is that we aren't here selling MPC's to each other. We are all already owners, and if you found your way to this site, then chances are you have some interest in MPC's that you found elsewhere and was not brought here by our "promotion." Me promoting an MPC to anyone on this site would be like selling water to a whale!

As for the beat battle having free shit given away, this site is not owned, nor run by Akai. And there are free give-aways. Did you read the thread?

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MONSTA wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yule390vLg0 the lights are dope right ??? but at the end of the day its stil a house ahahaha and no that not the same simon game video lol ..

That Dubstep light show is **** CRAZY! Dope!
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:14 pm
With the Renaissance, you can you the computer to edit midi and samples that is actual inside the MPC, since the Renaissance software is basically the MPC.
so your tell me you willing to spend 1300 . just for that feature 8) .. let me ask you this... if the mpc ren . was named something else and made by some one else .. but did the same thing would you still buy it ?? what does the word renaissance mean ?? Definition: The Renaissance is a name given to the "rebirth" of classical knowledge, art and learning that developed .. right so how is it a rebirth when its just a copy of ni maschine abelton live roland mv 8800 ect . rebirth / Renaissance to me . is stand alone .with the mpc sequence/swing and sound ... so enuff with the videos with all the flashy lights .. plz plz please i.. so me some sound .. what does it sound like ?? and yes it can be done .. whats so hard ?? we all know it can be done .. but heres some link .. for that mod .Lampdog who said it cant be done . here is a video show how it can be done .its a long boring video . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ur6UmY0M60 but my point is it can be done !!! and if you dont want wacth the video .. the go strate to the sound files http://soundcloud.com/maplewood-studio/ ... pogee-duet or http://soundcloud.com/maplewood-studio !!!!!!!!
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By DJ Hellfire Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:33 pm
MONSTA wrote:
With the Renaissance, you can you the computer to edit midi and samples that is actual inside the MPC, since the Renaissance software is basically the MPC.
1. so your tell me you willing to spend 1300 . just for that feature 8) .. let me ask you this...

2. if the mpc ren . was named something else and made by some one else .. but did the same thing would you still buy it ??

3. what does the word renaissance mean ?? Definition: The Renaissance is a name given to the "rebirth" of classical knowledge, art and learning that developed .. right so how is it a rebirth when its just a copy of ni maschine abelton live roland mv 8800 ect . rebirth / Renaissance to me . is stand alone .with the mpc sequence/swing and sound ... so enuff with the videos with all the flashy lights .. plz plz please i.. so me some sound .. what does it sound like ?? and yes it can be done .. whats so hard ?? we all know it can be done .. but heres some link .. for that mod .Lampdog who said it cant be done . here is a video show how it can be done .its a long boring video . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ur6UmY0M60 but my point is it can be done !!! and if you dont want wacth the video .. the go strate to the sound files http://soundcloud.com/maplewood-studio/ ... pogee-duet or http://soundcloud.com/maplewood-studio !!!!!!!!


1. Hell yeah I would! The time you save by being able to edit multiple midi notes at one time with a mouse vs editing them one by one with a cursor and a jog wheel, well worth it. Plus having more than 8 simultaneous channels to track into Pro Tools. Better believe it!

2. Yes, and I have! It's called Maschine! Check my youtube page if you wanna see me using it! I bought Maschine because Akai didn't offer anything like it, and I like Maschine. But I'm over 12 years familiar with MPC's and prefer them. Now they do and I will buy it.

3. The Renaissance is basically the same exact thing as a hardware MPC, minus the CPU. It has the midi and audio i/o and all. You can't expect it to be $600 like a Studio or Maschine.

And like I told you before, you can't use youtube to do a hearing demo. Youtube reduces audio to like 128 mbps mp3 audio even on HD videos. They would have to upload actual Wav samples to drop box or bandcamp or somewhere. And even still, those samples aren't gonna be the "true" Ren sound. It's gonna be your interface or soundcard sound.

And I don't give a **** about the name or what the Webster dictionary definition of it is! I just care that it has the functions I need! Period!
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:06 am
And like I told you before, you can't use youtube to do a hearing demo. Youtube reduces audio to like 128 mbps mp3 audio even on HD videos. They would have to upload actual Wav samples to drop box or bandcamp or somewhere.
dude are u blind .. dont you see three links smh .. one youtube and two soundclouds links.. you see it it but you dont wana see it ,..
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By DJ Hellfire Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:20 am
MONSTA wrote:
And like I told you before, you can't use youtube to do a hearing demo. Youtube reduces audio to like 128 mbps mp3 audio even on HD videos. They would have to upload actual Wav samples to drop box or bandcamp or somewhere.
dude are u blind .. dont you see three links smh .. one youtube and two soundclouds links.. you see it it but you dont wana see it ,..


I saw the links! :lol: But I don't know why you posted them when we already had the discussion you see below last week!

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DJ Hellfire wrote:
MONSTA wrote:yes you will . just dont use a mic . use ins and outs come on .. smh


First, youtube MURDERS the audio quality, even in HD videos. So the sound is still like 128kbps mp3 quality.

Second, they would have to sample in, track out, and post a high quality wav file somewhere online. But by the time it plays through whatever you are listening to it on, you're not gonna hear the true sound anyway.

The only way to truly hear what it sounds like is to physically have one in front of you.

But yeah, I'm really curious to hear how it sounds as well! I'm sure everyone is!
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By MONSTA Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:07 am
Second, they would have to sample in, track out, and post a high quality wav file somewhere online. But by the time it plays through whatever you are listening to it on, you're not gonna hear the true sound anyway. ]The only way to truly hear what it sounds like is to physically have one in front of you.,,,,,
But yeah, I'm really curious to hear how it sounds as well! I'm sure everyone is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Second, they would have to sample in, track out, and post a high quality wav file somewhere online. But by the time it plays through whatever you are listening to it on, you're not gonna hear the true sound anyway!




man you contradict your self .. heres the meaning just in case you dont understand it

Deny the truth of (a statement), esp. by asserting the opposite.
Assert the opposite of a statement made by (someone). first you say , cant hear it with youtube ,, only with bandcamp ... and you say you keep telling me that .. then i provide you with three links . one from youtube and two from soundcloud .. then you turn around and say man you cant really hear the sound only when your in front of it lol ahaahahahahaha .. then you turn around and sneak in by sayin we all wana hear how it sounds ahahah ..man every one in here has a some kind of a studio and some what of a good ear .. so who u foolin man ?? AND YOU TELLING ME I CAN ONLY HEAR THE TRUE SOUND ONLY WHEN IN IN FRONT OF IT ..SMH .. WHATS THE POINT OF I TUNES SOUNDCLOUD BAND CAMP .. YOU MITE AS WELL SAY DONT LISTEN MY LP CUZZ YOU WONT TRULY HEAR WHAT I SOUND LIKE UNLESS YOUR IN FRONT OF ME .. its 2012 the whole point is to have good sound comin over the net .. and if you cant hear the difference in audio via over the net or live or in a car ect .. thats your prob .. not mines ..
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Re: AKAI FINALLY! what this means for music production.

By DJ Hellfire Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:25 am
MONSTA wrote: Deny the truth of (a statement), esp. by asserting the opposite.
Assert the opposite of a statement made by (someone). first you say , cant hear it with youtube ,, only with bandcamp ... and you say you keep telling me that .. then i provide you with three links . one from youtube and two from soundcloud .. then you turn around and say man you cant really hear the sound only when your in front of it lol ahaahahahahaha .. then you turn around and sneak in by sayin we all wana hear how it sounds ahahah ..man every one in here has a some kind of a studio and some what of a good ear .. so who u foolin man ?? AND YOU TELLING ME I CAN ONLY HEAR THE TRUE SOUND ONLY WHEN IN IN FRONT OF IT ..SMH .. WHATS THE POINT OF I TUNES SOUNDCLOUD BAND CAMP .. YOU MITE AS WELL SAY DONT LISTEN MY LP CUZZ YOU WONT TRULY HEAR WHAT I SOUND LIKE UNLESS YOUR IN FRONT OF ME .. its 2012 the whole point is to have good sound comin over the net .. and if you cant hear the difference in audio via over the net or live or in a car ect .. thats your prob .. not mines ..



Key word TRULY! And I didn't sneak nothing in. I've said it from the beginning. And you clearly know absolutely nothing about audio. The only way to hear what ANY piece of equipment TRULY sounds like, you need to have the piece of gear in front of you with speakers connect directly to it. Anything else you play it through is not gonna have the true sound, but it will have the "color", or shittiness of what ever you're listening through. I have 1000's of samples from SP1200's and MPC 60's and when they are coming out of my any if my MPC's, they do not have the true sound of those drum machines. I don't care what you say.

Did you just say iTunes? :shock: You know what quality iTunes sells music at? 256 mbps mp3, and that's only over the last couple of years. It used to be 128. The purpose of sound cloud and bandcamp is to get a sound as best as possible to the original. But you know as well as I do that any SP1200 beats you find posted online do not sound the same as sitting in front of a physical SP1200 in your studio. If you really believe that you got a lot to learn! It's the basic principles of analog vs digital. Music always sounds the best, and most true, in the studio!
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