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By ion Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:10 pm
thanks, that EDIT OUT is what i must have missed.


Lampdog wrote:
ion wrote:1) one thing is that when i want to record my keys playing (ASR samples) midi into the mpc60 i need to have "PASS EVENTS" ON in the MPC Midi, but that also has me triggering the MPC samples automaticaly, wich of course i do not want... if i change it to off its fine but not recording the notes i play. :|


R U using a mpc midi type track to record your asr note playing?



thats a funny one, i can ONLY record the Seuences from ASR KEYS or in general with ASR sounds when the MPC Midi type is set to DRUM... not MIDI

so i fear that may not be the issue !?
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By Lampdog Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:21 pm
You record ASR performance on an MPC MIDI type track (mpc manual tells you this also).

DRUM is for recording internal MPC sounds.

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Something elsewhere is wrong if you can't record ASR performance onto MPC MIDI type tracks.
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By Lampdog Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:33 pm
You'll be aiight in time, lmfao.

Just stop bringing your confusing azz ideas to the table and confusing those that follow behind you ya know. :lol:
By Clint Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:45 pm
Finally got hold of an ASR-10 from ebay.co.uk.

Been looking for at least 18 months until I saw this one come up with a few accessories (paid approx $720.00).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWNX:IT

Picking this up on Monday and Im looking forward to tinkering, reading the manual and going thru this thread properly.

Thanks to Lampdog et al for posting up links, tips and tricks.

Much appreciated.
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By ion Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:47 pm
congrates
not the cheapest, but its all there

18 month is sick

be sure to check out the step by step chopping tutorial somewhere a few pages back in this thread
By Clint Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:59 am
Ok, so I've got the ASR and checked everything I could.

Loaded up some instruments and banks, just having a quick look around the board.

Its got SCSI, digital I/O, 16Mb, 6 output expander, CD-Rom , OS 3.53 and of course the Musicians manual.

It's a '92 model, in very good condition still with box and foam inserts.

But I do have a quick question for the ASR stalwarts, which would help me a great deal as I tread new ground.

File Management

Dude gave me a bunch of floppies, CD-R's and Zip disc's with instruments and banks saved all over the place.

Quite frankly it's a mess which I hope to improve upon from the very beginning, so...

Can I get some thoughts on the most efficient way to save, load and transfer samples/ instruments/ banks?

Bear in mind that Im set up to work with .wav files in the MPC4000 and Logic Pro 8 and may want to load the .wavs into either of those or use the ASR. I have the SCSI CD-ROM already, trying to keep the wiring minimal and use less power outlets. I currently need two mains sockets to power the system, thats enough really.

Please only offer your opinion if you are an ASR veteran and really know what's up.

Thanks in advance...

Lamp, any advice here?
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By ion Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:10 am
ehm, no veteran here but you seem not very informed, so i can tell you some basic if i am allowed :roll:

i dont know if i got you right, but there is absolutly NO using wavs in the ASR i am sure you know that, + i would absolutly NOT advice you to convert the sounds and bypassing the ASR sampling engine... you really would miss the whole point that way i you ask me.



saving/storage/management is pretty straight forward... you just sample your sounds, chop them up, and spread them over 1 or several Instruments.

than you save them as Instruments... thats all

(HINT* watch the size of the Instruments, erase eveyrthign you dont need, as you may run into the problem of not being able to load more than 1 Instr. otherwise)

storage device, best is a SCSI CF Card Reader (MCDISK 1 or 2) aka Sprus RD300 works and is what i am using here
cheaper aternative would be a SCSI Hard Drive


one thing to remember is, the ASR can ony handle folders with up to 38 files (for example Instruments) so you have to do some folders in advanve ( i couldnt find out how yet, as Chicken sys free did read the files of my CF Card, but i wasnt able to do anything with them or make new folders......... LAMP?)

Good Night, and Good Luck
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By DukeNewport Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:30 pm
ion wrote:so you have to do some folders in advanve ( i couldnt find out how yet, as Chicken sys free did read the files of my CF Card, but i wasnt able to do anything with them or make new folders......... LAMP?)


go ahead and search "directories" in the manual

it's a wonderful thing
By Clint Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:52 pm
ion wrote:ehm, no veteran here but you seem not very informed, so i can tell you some basic


Advice from you?

No thanks, I think I'll have to pass on that generous offer.

How could YOU of all people possibly suggest that I am not very informed?

Go back and count how many questions you've posted in this thread, and already you're the big man trying to coach me?

Thanks all the same...
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:20 pm
When I did a song on asr10, I saved my song/bank/instruments/everything on floppy(s).
Didn't use directories (I could have but didn't).

ASR doesn't do wav, technology wasn't in place inside ASR10 at that time.
By markmorgan10 Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:49 pm
Clint

Fastest way out of this I reckon would be to work with ZIP drives. In a perfect world, you'd get a CF card reader from SCSI4Samplers but I wanted to get one and was told that they don't do them any more. If you were lucky, you'd see one for sale somewhere but to be honest good luck with that.

I've got both a CF card reader and a ZIP drive. In the UK, you'd have no worries getting a zip drive - but from what I hear - be careful about getting the 250mb model as there have been some problems. You should have no worries with a 100mb model. Get a few disks - and you're away.

Of course there's something to think about (it is the ASR-10 after all) and thats how you're going to get files from your PC to your ASR. Unless you have a SCSI interface on your PC you're shafted (remember you'll need a ZIP drive with SCSI connection). I've heard that some of these 'combination drives' (USB&SCSI) work well, but can't be certain. In any case - Im considering getting another zip drive with USB connectivity for my PC. You can get a zip drive for around 30-40 (and even less on eBay).

So in an nutshell, if you were super-lucky I'd say get a cf card reader, but they seem to be discontinued. Yes you can work with floppies but there are limitations of course. I've used AKAI instruments that just about stretch the memory limits of the ASR (16mb). You can't even split those up into floppies even if you wanted to.

Regarding directories - I always prefer using macros. An excellent (and simple) feature

So I reckon you may want to check out that zip drive option, and then a copy of Translator (and a possible 2nd drive) if you're planning to transfer stuff to and from PC. Hope that helps.

Mark
By Clint Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:18 pm
Thanks Mark & Lampdog.

Sure I know the ASR doesnt work with .wavs, I was thinking more of conversion so will take a look at Translator.

Im working with a SCSI CD-Rom from the ASR so Im hoping to convert some stuff and burn to CD-R.

May be tempted to cop a SCSI hard-drive too, but Im gonna try and wrap my head around this old school machine first.

I understand the ASR will load Akai S1000/ 1100 programs, something it has in common with my MPC4000.

Anyone worked with Akai programs on the ASR? Good results or a waste of time??
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By Grouphome Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:29 pm
If your gonna go the Zipdrive route, get an usb version for your computer. works great with translator.
I also have an usb cardreader to read the cf cards from my asr (backup)
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By ion Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:36 pm
clint246clint wrote:
ion wrote:ehm, no veteran here but you seem not very informed, so i can tell you some basic


Advice from you?

No thanks, I think I'll have to pass on that generous offer.

How could YOU of all people possibly suggest that I am not very informed?

Go back and count how many questions you've posted in this thread, and already you're the big man trying to coach me?

Thanks all the same...





eech, thats too much ignorance on a wicked silverspoon for me.... disgusting tbh

just gave u some facts... yeh but keep eating from your silverspoon.. i guess there must be dudes like that for some kind of balance

long live the queen ight? :mrgreen: