Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By zangetsu01 Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:31 pm
What can you do with CV/Gate..?? Is it some sort of midi or can you see it as an additional audio output..?? And what happend to Spdif..?? That protocol could easily handle multiple outputs over just one cable. Or is it an outdated protocol?
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By Horseclick Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:35 pm
Zplane ROC wrote:An MV does not have 8 CV/Gate outputs. An MV does not have 4 Midi Outs or USB Ins and Out.

This new MPCx with its 4 analog Ins and 8 analog outs, Midi and CV specs is lookig like the centerpiece of the modern project studio. Think about it. It handles all your audio interface, midi interface, CV out needs and you can hook up any midi controller to it either by midi or USB. You can expand the storage simply be installing an SATA drive.

Gear I am maybe going to sell to fund this since it will no longer be needed: my MOTU Audio interface. Maschine and Studio Pad controllers, Cirklon (we'll see), and my midi interface.



its 6 outs, dont count outs 1/2 as theres no mix out.

all old school mpc's had a mix out 1/2 and 8 outs builtin or with a addon card (4ketc)
By willisill Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:35 pm
Kimbo wrote:2199$ ? come on Akai we are not all millionaires.

Looking forward to the new MPC 2.0.


Stuff looks pretty exciting, but I can personally say I would never pay that much considering I can get a maxed out 15' Macbook Pro for a g more or a maxed out PC for close to that price. I'm digging the standalone option, but i'll bet these things are gonna be hooked up to computers more often than not since it's 2017 and there's too many vst's that we all need. I own a Touch, so the Live has "meh" appeal to me, especially considering it has 16gb of internal storage... like you guys put a thumb drive in there? Sh*t, an internal 500 gb ssd costs like 150 nowadays.

I have 2 beefs with 2.0 that may or may not be proven wrong: 1) No flex markers for audio? Just "insert bpm" and it warps? Pretty much guarantees I'm still using Ableton to warp audio before I import it. 2) Is there still no glide option for keygroups? Kind of a deal breaker for monophonic sounds (808z dood). But really, that's why I generally don't lay those sounds down in mpc.

All that said, these will both be pretty dope and I'm sure the screens will be better than the one on my Touch :roll: But I still don't think this thing is gonna cater to my music without using a full-fledged DAW. I guess we'll find out in a month or 2.
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By Wormhelmet Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:38 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:What can you do with CV/Gate..?? Is it some sort of midi or can you see it as an additional audio output..?? And what happend to Spdif..?? That protocol could easily handle multiple outputs over just one cable. Or is it an outdated protocol?


CV = control voltage. Pre-midi gear, analog gear with no midi implementation used a control voltage method to control parameters. Can be converted to midi or vice versa to integrate with newer gear.
By chino Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:39 pm
I was an early adopter of the Ren. I loved the simple work flow BUT I had a rough time with the software(constant freezes and crashes!!) I ended up selling the Ren around version 1.7 or so. I bought an MV8800 (with the Mv8 OP expansion)and a Roland MC909.

I recently sold my MC909 so Im looking for a portable version of my MV8800 to use at gigs. Im hoping the MPC Live will meet my needs. My biggest concern is the stability of the software. IF the software proves to be reliable this time around then eventually I may sell my MV8800 to purchase the MPC X too.

Has the overall stability of the MPC software improved?

-DJ Chino
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By Horseclick Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:41 pm
chino wrote:I was an early adopter of the Ren. I loved the simple work flow BUT I had a rough time with the software(constant freezes and crashes!!) I ended up selling the Ren around version 1.7 or so. I bought an MV8800 (with the Mv8 OP expansion)and a Roland MC909.

I recently sold my MC909 so Im looking for a portable version of my MV8800 to use at gigs. Im hoping the MPC Live will meet my needs. My biggest concern is the stability of the software. IF the software proves to be reliable this time around then eventually I may sell my MV8800 to purchase the MPC X too.

Has the overall stability of the MPC software improved?

-DJ Chino


mv8 op1 if you selling at a nice price i'll take it
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By Wormhelmet Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:44 pm
Horseclick wrote:
chino wrote:I was an early adopter of the Ren. I loved the simple work flow BUT I had a rough time with the software(constant freezes and crashes!!) I ended up selling the Ren around version 1.7 or so. I bought an MV8800 (with the Mv8 OP expansion)and a Roland MC909.

I recently sold my MC909 so Im looking for a portable version of my MV8800 to use at gigs. Im hoping the MPC Live will meet my needs. My biggest concern is the stability of the software. IF the software proves to be reliable this time around then eventually I may sell my MV8800 to purchase the MPC X too.

Has the overall stability of the MPC software improved?

-DJ Chino


mv8 op1 if you selling at a nice price i'll take it


Haha. The thought of anyone here with an MV trying find that Unicorn of a card.
By Zplane ROC Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:02 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:What can you do with CV/Gate..?? Is it some sort of midi or can you see it as an additional audio output..?? And what happend to Spdif..?? That protocol could easily handle multiple outputs over just one cable. Or is it an outdated protocol?


CV/Gate is used for Eurorack stuff and other vintage modular synth setups. It has made a comeback the past ten years or so. It uses primitive voltage signals to control this old (and new) gear. Very cool and fun to play around with.

Here is Deadmau5 playing around with his huge modular setup. It is all being controlled using CV/Gate. That's what all this cables are patching I/O.

By jahsoul Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:11 pm
Kimbo wrote:2199$ ? come on Akai we are not all millionaires.

Looking forward to the new MPC 2.0.

The price doesn't bother, considering we paid about the same years ago for equipment. I'm just hoping the the price is justified. I felt that it would be around $2k but I'm hoping that the midi will be just as tight as the 4000 and I want to see how this thing sounds.
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By Fanu Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:21 pm
jahsoul wrote: I want to see how this thing sounds.


It's a modern device. It won't sound like anything; i.e., no coloration. And trust me, that's how the old MPCs were designed to sound, too: clean, but the then contemporary components made them sound so crusty and lo-fi.
How the X/Live will sound is entirely up to you, just like with Ren and Touch and any modern DAW.
By jpeg Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:44 pm
Wormhelmet wrote:
Zplane ROC wrote:An MV does not have 8 CV/Gate outputs. An MV does not have 4 Midi Outs or USB Ins and Out.

This new MPCx with its 4 analog Ins and 8 analog outs, Midi and CV specs is lookig like the centerpiece of the modern project studio. Think about it. It handles all your audio interface, midi interface, CV out needs and you can hook up any midi controller to it either by midi or USB. You can expand the storage simply be installing an SATA drive.

Gear I am maybe going to sell to fund this since it will no longer be needed: my MOdTU Audio interface. Maschine and Studio Pad controllers, Cirklon (we'll see), and my midi interface.


I/O is better for sure on the MPC X, but I use doepfer dark link midi to cv converters, my midi controllers are actual hardware synths, don't use a PC (gave up Ableton and PC after ten years of use). I'm not saying the MV beats it, I'm saying it has features implemented that 2.0 is just addressing now, is a full blown workstation, has the 8 audio tracks and no need for PC integration.

Don't misread that I think the MV is going to beat it. I just don't think it makes an MV obsolete yet.


still clinging on ehh; face it the mv is obsolete, lol, but as long as u can still make use of it who cares
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By zangetsu01 Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Fanu wrote:
jahsoul wrote: I want to see how this thing sounds.


It's a modern device. It won't sound like anything; i.e., no coloration. And trust me, that's how the old MPCs were designed to sound, too: clean, but the then contemporary components made them sound so crusty and lo-fi.
How the X/Live will sound is entirely up to you, just like with Ren and Touch and any modern DAW.


I agree, and that's what I prefer.. Clean sound, Let me decide how I color my sound..
By soultrane28 Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:00 pm
That's pretty awesome. The touch screen is good but you could do a lot of damage without even putting a finger on it.

Ticks all the boxes for me, 8 analog out, phono in, multiple line ins, mic ins, 4 midi out, 2 midi in, footswitch in, ttb in, and CV is a bonus.

The Sound on Sound demo looks like the thing is just about ready to go.

The look of 2.0 is so cool, takes me back to Atari Pong... that's what we want as musicians, simple, fast, dependable.

I'm in. Ren up for sale.