Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By machinesworking Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:24 pm
I de-lidded two 6 core Xeons for a Mac Pro once. That was terrifying enough. I wish this vid walked through the process of uninstalling and installing the RAM a bit more, it doesn't look soldered at all in the video?
By Nutrisse Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:49 am
Likely used a hot air station or hot air gun.

I said it before and I'll say it again - the juice ain't worth the squeeze for this particular mod. It goes beyond an average skill set and requires expensive tools to even think about doing. EVEN IF one had the ability and tools to do this sort of thing, would they REALLY want to deal with the barrage of emails from paranoid MPC users every time something unrelated to the mod goes sideways later on down the road? On the other hand, would you trust a modder doing this to your machine? If they screwed it up, it wouldn't be a "whoops I cracked the plastic" sort of mistake. You'd have to basically buy an entirely new unit.

The only way I can see this as being worth anyone's time would be if the roks were modded and checked out with proper test equipment beforehand. This way the buyer could just swap them out on their own. Even then, you're then paying what, $300+ for something Akai will likely officially do sooner than later, anyway?

I'd love to be proven wrong here. The MPC Live desperately needs more memory, but I'm not sure this mod is it.
By B-Wise Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:41 am
machinesworking wrote:I de-lidded two 6 core Xeons for a Mac Pro once. That was terrifying enough. I wish this vid walked through the process of uninstalling and installing the RAM a bit more, it doesn't look soldered at all in the video?

He has another hour & half video that went into more detail. I didn't watch it but check that out & or ask him for more info. I talked to on reddit after I posted his Force RAM video & he very cool to chat with.
By machinesworking Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:23 am
B-Wise wrote:
machinesworking wrote:I de-lidded two 6 core Xeons for a Mac Pro once. That was terrifying enough. I wish this vid walked through the process of uninstalling and installing the RAM a bit more, it doesn't look soldered at all in the video?

He has another hour & half video that went into more detail. I didn't watch it but check that out & or ask him for more info. I talked to on reddit after I posted his Force RAM video & he very cool to chat with.

Nice, I'm the guy that would try this for sure. Holding off until I find out something conclusive about time signatures in MPC3 going forward, but once that happens I will give this a shot.
By researchintospeed Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:15 am
I'm seriously considering this, ie paying for the service this person is now offering. With the caveat I'd get a 2nd MPC live as a tester to try it on...

I can't see AKAI going near this. They might have to mea culpa for the whole '2gb of sampling ram' debacle at launch. It would also eat into the market for the likely/expected new MPC that will come on the heals of MPC3. For sure theres no news or indication for that future product, but the platform is 6 or 7 years old, processor and ram update on a new device would keep their hold in the market and shift plenty of units.

And f*** it, as they say, Hack the planet!

Have a great day :)

Cx

Nutrisse wrote:Likely used a hot air station or hot air gun.

I said it before and I'll say it again - the juice ain't worth the squeeze for this particular mod. It goes beyond an average skill set and requires expensive tools to even think about doing. EVEN IF one had the ability and tools to do this sort of thing, would they REALLY want to deal with the barrage of emails from paranoid MPC users every time something unrelated to the mod goes sideways later on down the road? On the other hand, would you trust a modder doing this to your machine? If they screwed it up, it wouldn't be a "whoops I cracked the plastic" sort of mistake. You'd have to basically buy an entirely new unit.

The only way I can see this as being worth anyone's time would be if the roks were modded and checked out with proper test equipment beforehand. This way the buyer could just swap them out on their own. Even then, you're then paying what, $300+ for something Akai will likely officially do sooner than later, anyway?

I'd love to be proven wrong here. The MPC Live desperately needs more memory, but I'm not sure this mod is it.
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By Danoc Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:13 pm
:shock: :smh: That's one hellava hack :worthy: Akai should of put that in the MPC. still not powerful enough for me though.
By Nutrisse Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:34 am
I should clarify - I didn't mean Akai would be modding units. I meant that MPCs having 4gb (and possibly higher) as standard in the near future is a near certainty. I'm all for hacking the planet, and I have a long history of doing so, but I don't trust that Akai *wouldn't* implement a sort of RAM "shut off valve" on future firmware releases when not adhering to the amount of RAM the firmware expects to see on boot.

Personally, I'd jump into a RAM hack if I knew the machine was running a custom/open source firmware. That said, it looks like the cost of this mod is near exactly as much as I thought it would be. Not sure the additional $300 is worth it for the MPC Live in my case, but I'm excited for anyone willing to jump in. It's a step in the right direction.

researchintospeed wrote:I'm seriously considering this, ie paying for the service this person is now offering. With the caveat I'd get a 2nd MPC live as a tester to try it on...

I can't see AKAI going near this. They might have to mea culpa for the whole '2gb of sampling ram' debacle at launch. It would also eat into the market for the likely/expected new MPC that will come on the heals of MPC3. For sure theres no news or indication for that future product, but the platform is 6 or 7 years old, processor and ram update on a new device would keep their hold in the market and shift plenty of units.

And f*** it, as they say, Hack the planet!

Have a great day :)

Cx

Nutrisse wrote:Likely used a hot air station or hot air gun.

I said it before and I'll say it again - the juice ain't worth the squeeze for this particular mod. It goes beyond an average skill set and requires expensive tools to even think about doing. EVEN IF one had the ability and tools to do this sort of thing, would they REALLY want to deal with the barrage of emails from paranoid MPC users every time something unrelated to the mod goes sideways later on down the road? On the other hand, would you trust a modder doing this to your machine? If they screwed it up, it wouldn't be a "whoops I cracked the plastic" sort of mistake. You'd have to basically buy an entirely new unit.

The only way I can see this as being worth anyone's time would be if the roks were modded and checked out with proper test equipment beforehand. This way the buyer could just swap them out on their own. Even then, you're then paying what, $300+ for something Akai will likely officially do sooner than later, anyway?

I'd love to be proven wrong here. The MPC Live desperately needs more memory, but I'm not sure this mod is it.
By dustyslices Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:45 am
I’m on the same boat here, given that AKAI have some 4gig leftovers, there is a chance they will want to dump them to the market before next gen unit.
Push can be expanded, Isla expansion card is coming soon as well, so why wouldn’t they ?
Don’t think they would be such dicks to cripple existing mods but if its widespread enough to cripple their potential sales then why not ?

EDIT:
$300 to change two chips? sorry shouldn’t laugh, business is business and if there is market for it then why not but come on son… lololololol

Nutrisse wrote:I should clarify - I didn't mean Akai would be modding units. I meant that MPCs having 4gb (and possibly higher) as standard in the near future is a near certainty. I'm all for hacking the planet, and I have a long history of doing so, but I don't trust that Akai *wouldn't* implement a sort of RAM "shut off valve" on future firmware releases when not adhering to the amount of RAM the firmware expects to see on boot.

Personally, I'd jump into a RAM hack if I knew the machine was running a custom/open source firmware. That said, it looks like the cost of this mod is near exactly as much as I thought it would be. Not sure the additional $300 is worth it for the MPC Live in my case, but I'm excited for anyone willing to jump in. It's a step in the right direction.
By marctronixx Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:08 pm
220 in total + ship. yeah its a good chunk of change. i dont see myself hitting that limit plus with 3 out and the ability to house temp files on the ext storage and disk streaming, imma see how well this goes. ive not ever hit my max on the live retro because my projects dont use a lot of efx/ internal sounds in the box so i may not be the demographic for this -- plus ive got the x se as well...
By B-Wise Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:57 pm
marctronixx wrote:220 in total + ship. yeah its a good chunk of change. i dont see myself hitting that limit plus with 3 out and the ability to house temp files on the ext storage and disk streaming, imma see how well this goes. ive not ever hit my max on the live retro because my projects dont use a lot of efx/ internal sounds in the box so i may not be the demographic for this -- plus ive got the x se as well...

You get $60 off the final price. For those that need the extra power it may be worth it.