Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By waxmastawes Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:15 pm
im sure there's been a thread about this but let's say i got a sampled break for the main drumline for a beat... how would you guys go about beefing the hits up? im using a 1000 ..I've used the 4-band EQ, and bit grunger but like if the break is sampled not chopped what would be the best way of beefing it up? maybe not only on the mpc but on the computer?
By j-no Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:25 pm
waxmastawes wrote:im sure there's been a thread about this but let's say i got a sampled break for the main drumline for a beat... how would you guys go about beefing the hits up? im using a 1000 ..I've used the 4-band EQ, and bit grunger but like if the break is sampled not chopped what would be the best way of beefing it up? maybe not only on the mpc but on the computer?


you can try filtering the break till it's all bass, turn it up a little, then layer it under the original break... anybody else has a tip???
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By Jacpot Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:32 pm
Or you can "step in" some kicks and snares under the break to layer it to give it some punch
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By cyrus Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:02 pm
Jacpot wrote:Or you can "step in" some kicks and snares under the break to layer it to give it some punch


yeah that works, but also keep in mind you might have to filter some bottom end off, or eq some frequencies so those layered kicks dont create some competing frequencies..........sometimes you do sometimes you dont.

Recycle is a good answer. Chop it up using recycle. Then export it using the mpc program export. This will give you a sequence with the same groove as the break and automatically play the break chops in the same order so you have the original break intact.

Then go to the hits you want to beef up. Layer under those using the similtaneous function on the mpc. Becuase you have each hit chopped to individual hits, you can still keep those hits inplace so you dont loose the essence of the break, but you can filter out some bottom or top end and place your other hits exactly where they need to be in the sequence. This helps to avoid problems of getting your layered hits to hit at the right time. ya know?
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even though you are chopping up the break into individaul hits, does not mean you have to rearrange the break. You can keep the break the same. You have more control because you can mess with each hit. alot of times you can just loose the original kicks and put in your own, and just layer a hihat from the break over it; and it will have the same feel, just beefier.

anyway around it, if you use recycle, you can layer under the OG break, or you can replace all the hits with your own sounds. Becuase you used recycle and the mpc export function you can maintain the origianl groove of the break. youll be makin it your own because you use your ownsounds, but its will be nice cause it has that groove of the original break.

peace
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By Smoove03 Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:59 pm
waxmastawes wrote:im sure there's been a thread about this but let's say i got a sampled break for the main drumline for a beat... how would you guys go about beefing the hits up? im using a 1000 ..I've used the 4-band EQ, and bit grunger but like if the break is sampled not chopped what would be the best way of beefing it up? maybe not only on the mpc but on the computer?


lay some of your own drums on top of it...maybe not many drums, but ones that will help it out..

for instance, adding your own kick to the break may help it kick more. if the snare is pretty low, you can lay one on top of the break and if the snare fits, it can sound really good sometimes...

hithats come in handy, but not needed. if you do throw some hats in there, you probably wont need a steady hihat pattern. maybe some on the downbeats..?

anyway, those are just some techniques i have when i use breaks. matter fact, if you do build your own drums around the break, you can turn the main break down and actually have it there to backup your drums. and a lot of times it comes out good for me!
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By waxmastawes Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:05 pm
word, thanks for the feedback... ive used breaks in a couple old tracks i made, and they lack beef. check out "Gone & Tryumph" @ www.myspace.com/waxmastawes

you see how the drum hits are abit weak? that was a while ago and I don't know why I didn't layer more drum hits over the brreak but it would have helped the tracks out alot.. And i never saved those projects or anything so if i wanted to beef up the tracks i guess i'd have to start from scratch and re-sample everything? god i probably forget where i got those samples anyways. :?
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By Smoove03 Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:16 pm
dont go back man move forward. thats the advice i have. take that as a learning experience. learn from it and do it differently the next time around. the next track you use a break on, experiment a little and throw some extra drum hits in there and see what you come up with

really the only problem i had working with drum breaks and layering drums with them is timing problems. i sometimes have to turn timing off so that everything matches up. came out good sometimes, other times not so good. but you win some you loose some i guess :)

good luck partna
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By cyrus Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:17 pm
^^^yeah thats true.
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By J WALES Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:53 pm
I take a break and replay the drums almost exactly as they r in the loop then i overdub and stick a few extra hits in to change the feel to my liking.