Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By dubmunkey Fri May 28, 2004 1:19 pm
well i thought my advice would be better than putting the sample back in sf or even recycle and adding a tail....

what ive done before is to add 30m/s of silence at the end of the sample to compensate for the decay....basically sample 1 sec of silence and then paste that onto the end of your sample.....et voila...

so 3 ways you can compesnate without the sample leaving the mpc...

i chop very tight but do agree that sometimes it wont always match- ive always used a combo of these three techniques to fake that tail and close that gap....

you just need to try it

greg

By Aster Fri May 28, 2004 2:13 pm
Greg,
I peep what u sayin now... tried it last night...
I also tried just getting over it, lol.

Glad you all noticed that to, I remember the first week I thought I suckked at looping and chopping without software, but now I know it's just different.
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By dubmunkey Fri May 28, 2004 2:34 pm
cool. but if this is a prob for you i recommend you spend the two mins it will take to try one of those techniques...if i had a gap in tune where there wasn't meant to be a gap i wouldn't try and 'get over it' id ty and fix it....those sorts of compromises means your music could suffer....for example my mate started using his mpc but his beats are shite cos he says he doesn't like to edit in step-edit and therefore doesn't...resrict yourself restricts your music...

also i have had tunes that are like 125.7 in bpm just cos i need the sample to fit the beat so dont stress about whole numbers....its about the sound

greg

By Aster Fri May 28, 2004 3:16 pm
Oh naw, I tried your fixup last night, I like the one where you take a little snip off the end, copy it, reverse it, and then paste it back on the end...
(Plus a little decay)
But it's a lot harder to do on the MPC than it is in Soundforge or Wavelab (I use to do the same thing to make drum hits exactly an even 1/8 note). I could leave it alone until I finish the beat, and then take it to my boy's house with the finished beat multi-tracked on a CD so he can hear the problem, and the zip with all the samples so he could tweak them and resave them with the changes...
Or I could just knuckle up and buy a lap top but then I might be tempted to chop in recycle, edit in sound forge, and sequence in acid, like before...
Which is quicker but more sterile, than the MPC...

By paulio Fri May 28, 2004 6:13 pm
can you reverse a sample on an mpc 2000 non xl

By Db75 Fri May 28, 2004 10:32 pm
^yes. in the zone edit window, select the zone, press edit and choose "reverse zone"


thanks for the replies everyone.
you've really helped out
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By dubmunkey Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:01 am
yeah i prefer the fudge looping method to the reversed fake tail method...sounds better...remember to add that silence!

greg

By Db75 Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:49 am
dubmunkey wrote:remember to add that silence!


that's all i've been doing, and it works fine
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By dubmunkey Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:03 pm
wicked! glad its working for you.....

greg
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By _cc Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:37 am
anymore tips on this...? when i try to chop a sample, i don tknow....just doesn't sound too smooth. it's kinda like uh, i'm forcing it. so it doesn't come out too good. and i think the gaps in a lot of people's choppin...maybe their not sequencing it right. timing is wrong...? any tips...?

By bboy Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:51 am
don't know if this has been mentioned but dj shadow would sample a little record static and just insert it at the beginning of the silent gap... it works for me.
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By cyrus Sun Jun 13, 2004 5:59 am
bboy wrote:don't know if this has been mentioned but dj shadow would sample a little record static and just insert it at the beginning of the silent gap... it works for me.


true. Or try using the decay. I.E. fade out the sound real quick at the end, this only works for some types, but ive gotten short loops to work with this(ones that wouldnt loop with out it) But you can do this so its not abrupt ending onshorter samples.

YOu also need to try to sample breaks, as opposed to "songs" LOL!

but what else works is "note off" function....."mono" function, or leaving a tail on the sample, then fading it out so it "slightly overlaps" if the samples are that far apart, then you need to add some noise inthere djshadow style.
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By cyrus Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:04 am
dubmunkey wrote:
also i have had tunes that are like 125.7 in bpm just cos i need the sample to fit the beat so dont stress about whole numbers....its about the sound

greg


yeah, all mine are fraction bpms. this why i love mpc, i hate triton cause its all whole numbers.