Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Ronin Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:27 pm
thx wrote:if you searchin'acoustic drums you can sample from records or even cd
at the very start of some songs (let's say the first 3 or 4 seconds) you can found some good "open" drum hits to sample,
it is not hard to find some good drum hit

Preciate it again
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By thx Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:28 pm
thx wrote:
if you searchin'acoustic drums you can sample from records or even cd
at the very start of some songs (let's say the first 3 or 4 seconds) you can find some good "open" drum hits to sample,
it is not hard to find some good drum hit

sorry for my bad english
:P
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By scoobylol Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:30 pm
You haven't rubbed me up the wrong way mate, nor do I mind telling you PRECISELY where I've found samples. But you're really missing my point... this is your musical journey, it's for you to develop your sound.

The samples I choose and what I do to them define my sound, so you see me telling you is pretty irrelevant to your music.

As for digging being expensive, I don't know where you live but here in the UK there's an abundance of charity shops where you can pick up thousands of second hand records on the cheap. £1 an LP bargain bin crap, but grab a handful one weekend and I promise you with a keen ear and some creativity you will find something useable.

Secondly, ask around locally I bet there's loads of residents who wouldn't mind letting you have some of their old wax that they've replaced with CDs over the years.

Join your local library they will be full of albums you can borrow and search through.

Newspapers are full of free CDs, my nana always saves them for me, and it's always excellent stuff like Nat King Cole.

Why don't you look online for some open source music to sample? Or some out of copyright material for some really interesting results?

Why don't you sample from more redundant mediums? MiniDisc, Tape, etc... You can even sample from DVDs and VHS tapes.

Honestly I defy you to not be able to find something to sample on the cheap dude.
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By thx Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:40 pm
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By Ronin Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:42 pm
scoobylol wrote:You haven't rubbed me up the wrong way mate, nor do I mind telling you PRECISELY where I've found samples. But you're really missing my point... this is your musical journey, it's for you to develop your sound.

The samples I choose and what I do to them define my sound, so you see me telling you is pretty irrelevant to your music.

As for digging being expensive, I don't know where you live but here in the UK there's an abundance of charity shops where you can pick up thousands of second hand records on the cheap. £1 an LP bargain bin ****, but grab a handful one weekend and I promise you with a keen ear and some creativity you will find something useable.

Secondly, ask around locally I bet there's loads of residents who wouldn't mind letting you have some of their old wax that they've replaced with CDs over the years.

Join your local library they will be full of albums you can borrow and search through.

Newspapers are full of free CDs, my nana always saves them for me, and it's always excellent stuff like Nat King Cole.

Why don't you look online for some open source music to sample? Or some out of copyright material for some really interesting results?

Why don't you sample from more redundant mediums? MiniDisc, Tape, etc... You can even sample from DVDs and VHS tapes.

Honestly I defy you to not be able to find something to sample on the cheap dude.


I respect that, there is ALOT I know I still need to learn. lol I havent seen any local newspapers in my area handing out free CD's, but I will look into it.

I see/understand where you're coming from, at first it just seemed like " :roll: Oh No, not another n00b " but I feel you man. guess I'm just getting frustrated but I'll crawl before walking.
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By Ronin Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:44 pm
thx wrote:i agree with Scoobylol
you can sample all the sounds you want from all the sources

i forgot these links:

http://ccmixter.org/
http://www.darkbeats.com/sampleswap/
http://www.samplecraze.com/
http://www.deephousepage.com/forums/sho ... ee+samples
http://musicbootcamp.com/drum-samples-and-music-loops/
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound_samples
http://www.freesound.org/
http://www.bassandtrouble.com/sounds/wa ... vs3000.htm


good looking out, but I'll take the advice of Scoobylol and just quest it out, it makes sense what he has said.
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By scoobylol Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:52 pm
Here in the UK quite a lot of our sunday newspapers offer free CDs like the best of Ella Fitzgerald etc... Don't worry dude everybody has been in your shoes, and it is very frustrating, but use that desire to push yourself. Use your lack of finances to dig in unique places.

As for the actual finding of specific sounds, then try to focus on musical genres that pertain to those sounds. So for example if you're looking for a nice Rhodes sound you'd head to some Chick Korea Jazz Fusion type thing maybe... you would probably avoid heading to the Country section.

Also if you find an album with a good musician, write down their name and google around to see what else they've done.

I tell you what I've found interesting lately is listening to soundtracks from old Film Noir movies. Miles Davis did a really good one called Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud. Some very useable bass notes on there, aswell as tons of other bits and bobs.
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By Ronin Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:58 pm
scoobylol wrote:Here in the UK quite a lot of our sunday newspapers offer free CDs like the best of Ella Fitzgerald etc... Don't worry dude everybody has been in your shoes, and it is very frustrating, but use that desire to push yourself. Use your lack of finances to dig in unique places.

As for the actual finding of specific sounds, then try to focus on musical genres that pertain to those sounds. So for example if you're looking for a nice Rhodes sound you'd head to some Chick Korea Jazz Fusion type thing maybe... you would probably avoid heading to the Country section.

Also if you find an album with a good musician, write down their name and google around to see what else they've done.

I tell you what I've found interesting lately is listening to soundtracks from old Film Noir movies. Miles Davis did a really good one called Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud. Some very useable bass notes on there, aswell as tons of other bits and bobs.


Noir films is pretty dope, I've only seen 1 and it was animated lol. but ok, I definitely will.
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By thx Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:55 am
scoobylol wrote:I tell you what I've found interesting lately is listening to soundtracks from old Film Noir movies. Miles Davis did a really good one called Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud. Some very useable bass notes on there, aswell as tons of other bits and bobs.


the film and the soundtrack are masterpieces...
OT:
Louis Malle is one of my favourite directors
i've seen this movie 2 or 3 times on a cinema in my town
next year me and some friends will give it again for a retrospective cicle of films starring Lino Ventura
Jeanne Moreau is beautiful in that movie
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By mp3 Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:49 am
Doesn't matter what type of samples you're digging for (loops, riffs and phrases, single notes, or drum hits), the process is the same. My bad if I came off like a dick earlier. I been going thru some mp3s tonight and I already ran across a bunch of snares, some toms, a kick or two, a couple nice open flute notes, an open strings note, an acoustic bass riff that you could chop into notes, and more. Good luck with your search.
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By Ronin Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:20 am
mp3 wrote:Doesn't matter what type of samples you're digging for (loops, riffs and phrases, single notes, or drum hits), the process is the same. My bad if I came off like a dick earlier. I been going thru some mp3s tonight and I already ran across a bunch of snares, some toms, a kick or two, a couple nice open flute notes, an open strings note, an acoustic bass riff that you could chop into notes, and more. Good luck with your search.


its all good, like I said I respect and understand where you kats is coming from. no hard feelings or anything.
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By drunkmonkey5556 Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:03 am
next time your listening to a beat that uses the type of sample you want to use, look it up online on either google or a website called "whosampled.com"
see if you can find out where the sample came from
then look into that artist and see if they have something you want to sample
the more you do that type of research the better you are at finding out where to look for samples
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By Ronin Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:19 am
drunkmonkey5556 wrote:next time your listening to a beat that uses the type of sample you want to use, look it up online on either google or a website called "whosampled.com"
see if you can find out where the sample came from
then look into that artist and see if they have something you want to sample
the more you do that type of research the better you are at finding out where to look for samples

:lol: thanks but again, the question was poorly worded in my OP.
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By Menco Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:42 am
Another reason to really dig for yourself is to find out what kind of music works for you to sample. You really have to buy/ download a lot of crap to know and understand what kind of samples you like that are the foundation of your signature style.

Me for example like dramatic music with a lot of stuff going on in a short phrase because most of the time I sample my melody from one record. Others like to sample solo phrases from different records and put that together or like to layer that with vst's or synths.

You can only find that out for yourself by trial and error.