Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

The best way to sample a stereo record into mono

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By thx Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:36 pm
sorry for the OT...

Shostakovich wrote:
thx wrote:
Shostakovich wrote:the mono copies (sold in the US I think)


in the 60s there are many records pressed in mono, in all countries
stereo hi-fi systems were not so popular at the time
many peoples got a mono turntable in the 60s


Agreed, but there weren't many releases which were MONO ONLY in one country and STEREO ONLY in another.

It was STEREO ONLY in the US and most fans agree the UK MONO versions sounded much better. That is why they fetch more on the s/h market than the American pressings.


yes, true. i got the first stereo UK pressing of the white album (aka the beatles) N. 0464480 and it sounds very good, but never compared to the mono uk pressing
also got the 3rd or 4rth mono US pressing of "meet the beatles" (which sounds really good)
the two records are scratched as hell, but i love to hear clicks and pops... especially on this 2
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By thx Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:56 pm
coming back in topic...
i think there is not a "better" option... depends on what you want to obtain from the source:
some records has been recorded in 4 tracks (60s records) and usually the panning is extreme in this songs/compositions
in many cases you got in one channel only the drums and the bass guitar (or other instr.) and in the other channel the voices and the lead guitar, for example, like shostakovich said before.
so if you want to isolate one or more instruments, in left or right channel, you have to sample only the required channel
another example:
the Throbbing Gristle album "Grief" got some live recordings of the band in one channel (right ch.) and a interview with the members of TG -echoed with an fx unit- on the other channel (left ch.)
so you can sample only the music or only the interview or both channels (interview + music/noise)
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By bliprock Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:21 pm
thx wrote:coming back in topic...
i think there is not a "better" option... depends on what you want to obtain from the source:
some records has been recorded in 4 tracks (60s records) and usually the panning is extreme in this songs/compositions
in many cases you got in one channel only the drums and the bass guitar (or other instr.) and in the other channel the voices and the lead guitar, for example, like shostakovich said before.
so if you want to isolate one or more instruments, in left or right channel, you have to sample only the required channel
another example:
the Throbbing Gristle album "Grief" got some live recordings of the band in one channel (right ch.) and a interview with the members of TG -echoed with an fx unit- on the other channel (left ch.)
so you can sample only the music or only the interview or both channels (interview + music/noise)


I agree, i have been sampling old records, from 50s 60s and notice the extreme panning and its obvious when you look at the waveform. so i need the third option in the poll as well. Just depends on sample and what you want.
And was great to see Throbbing Gristle mentioned, ah memories.......

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By poundaproblem Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:58 pm
cyrus wrote:i think the answer to this is the answer to every **** question on the planet................."it depends!"


^ This.


I mean...theres no one size fits all answer for this. Its ALL going to start at your source and how the original mixing engineer put his mix together. Like most other questions around here, I think this is being over thought
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By Lampdog Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:00 pm
cyrus wrote:i think the answer to this is the answer to every **** question on the planet................."it depends!"


^ This.


poundaproblem wrote:Like most other questions around here, I think this is being over thought


^ This.
By chaseaston Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:53 pm
poundaproblem wrote:
I mean...theres no one size fits all answer for this. Its ALL going to start at your source and how the original mixing engineer put his mix together. Like most other questions around here, I think this is being over thought


I am with you on the original mix tip. I also like what peterpiper said here "I got some records were the Kick is different on both sides (left side more bassfrequencies, right side more kick(high) frequencies) so you can choose: 1both for a full sound or left for bass or right for just a kick."

This brings the focus right back to the record and how it is mixed - hence, when you pan L/R on your mixer to sample out of your L/R Record Out, you can really play with the dynamics of the sound.

With one custom stereo-mono cable, or a monopak, I guess you can do this panning technique without having to unplug and re-plug the cable you are using to sample with every time you want to change channels.
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By Lampdog Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:12 pm
chaseaston wrote:With one custom stereo-mono cable, or a monopak, I guess you can do this panning technique without having to unplug and re-plug the cable you are using to sample with every time you want to change channels.


^ This.