drum layering book

binger0 wrote:yeah i agree with gettin help. There is nothing wrong with getting insights and advice from experinced people. It just makes you able to make better music quicker. I bought mad books and read mad magazines when i first started and its helped alot for me to get me making decent music. WIthout that info i wouldnt be half as good as i am, or half as knowledgable as i am about production and recording. Read and digest every piece of info you can about this **** to make u more well rounded. Read interviews, magazines, websites, anything. Cause there is no cheat sheet to making good tracks, but a helping hand and info and insights to what other cats are doing is key to becoming better at anything.

I agree 110% cuz many professionals had help along the way and they were very good at observation. I bought the book before and summing, merging, and laying came more into play as for as clarification on what to do. To be the best, learn and innovate from the pros or as least intern until you got a basic grasp of what you`re doing.

Open mind can learn the simplest of things from anybody.

You know, it isn't just about needing it, reading it will be at least interesting and get you thinking about different ways to do it, it's gotta be somewhat well written, and it supports tutor and this site, homie put work into it if he runs this joint, you're gonna learn something. I want to peep the EQing one too.

Just to let you know that the books are both written by Samplecraze - his knowledge of this stuff waaay surpasses mine - he's been at this for many years and know this stuff inside out - to a point where it's a little scarey...

The books are very good, and I'm not just saying that because I get a cut from the sales - I wouldn't put them on my site if they sucked.

http://www.mpc-samples.com/section.php/8/0

I copped the eq joint(gotta support my home away from home)............... just skimmed through but it looks cool so far..............

I gotta say that any cat who spends the amount of money it costs to cop an MPC and whatever other gear and thinks spendin' an extra 20 to 40 bucks on a product that can give them a big head start in their production isn't worth it needs to stop smokin crack..........

this kinda of stuff wasn't available when I started producin but if it had been I woulda been all over it!

man, if i could pay with paypal i would be also. I need to get a credit card.

Boogie Man wrote:

grimaybeats555 wrote:Sometimes its better to learn "art" from a book written by someone who knows more about the "art" than you can learn from trial and error on your own.

no...thats learning a trade....

art is self expression....

**** it up because you dont know how to do it is self expression too. some people would rather nto go through that. martial ARTS is learned from teachers. similar situation here.

yes music is an art, but what are you gonna do when you are recording some guys and in the middle of things they turn around and say - the bass don't sound right, can you fix it... and the clock is ticking and the money is running out..... Much of the music industry IS a trade, albeit a very cool one

I'm gonna get both the EQ book and the Layer book for 3 reasons:

It supports this site.

I may learn a few new things.

I will get inspired.

Just sat down with a bottle of red, a rare steak and read through the layering drums book.

I'm off for a layering session. Nuff said.

I like laerning all that 'i can, because out of all the people that I know peraonally that produce. i know the most beacuse of the fact that i read all that I can. i need to find someone who knows more than I do. Not meaning that I know alot, but just nore than they do. I'm the kind of person who likes to be able to do as much as I can on my own. make beats, mix it, write rhymes, whatever. mastering i'll pay for that. but i will also being paying very close attention, to what he is doing, and asking alot question to learn as much as i can.

The eq book is next on my list. Next time I get some money.

The eq book is excellent - a thorough walk-through of the basics of eq combined with suggestions on eqing various musical parts. Zukan puts across a good philosophy and illustrates everything with sound files and screen shots.

sit down with a smoke or a bottle and read read read...

Thats cool man...I was just hoping you weren't one of these jonny come latelys have mommy and daddy buy all the most high priced gear and read some books an shchit...
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which would be completely irrelevant anyway if you were making fire...

greg

there is a difference between wanting to be able to write music- progam beats etc and wanting them to stand up against pro recordings- everyone does but not everyone can do both- therefore some learning in the technical side is as much of a cop out as taking guitar lessons in that its not a cop out at all moreover just nesseray in todays muso clim-8

fair enough guitarists and band members dont have to worry and can focus on the music but us e-musos cant get away with that anymore as the production is inherent in the song therefore if you to want to learn formally about this rather than experiment so you can then get back to focussing on the music you cannot be critised.....there are less good mixers/engineers than there are good musos and more people are moved/inspired by the music than the production techniques

greg
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can we get a deal if we buy both at once? or if we buy all 3 of those books?

Mr. Mind wrote:

Boogie Man wrote:

grimaybeats555 wrote:Sometimes its better to learn "art" from a book written by someone who knows more about the "art" than you can learn from trial and error on your own.

no...thats learning a trade....

art is self expression....

**** it up because you dont know how to do it is self expression too. some people would rather nto go through that. martial ARTS is learned from teachers. similar situation here.

So you're saying learning Martial Arts through a book is the same as learning from a master....

I don't think so....


I guess I was just lucky enough to learn from someone who was already doing what I wanted to do...I'm not saying don't read books...I've read one on synths myself, but I just jumped the gun and assumed the kid was using his parents money for a major studio and didn't know where the power button was...just a simple dumb azzed assumption on my part...