Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By hhtmpc Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:49 am
Does anyone use the technique of using a kick n snare simultaniously but pitching the kick up a 3rd? I was focusing in on a tight beat in the movie "whats the worst that can happen" today and i think i noticed that the beat went like: kick and then kick(3rd up) + snare, I know that its basicly up to the producer but could someone tell me some info or somewhere i could read about ish like that? THANKYOU.. PEEEACE

By Madness Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:06 am
I think you explained it exactly right, you know what your doin' so get too it and program that business....!!!


Probably doing it so that the Kick Doubles as a bassline kind'of so that it is still very minimal...

Try layering the kick with another kick pitch shifted or a bass patch, or with varied attack settings.....!!!

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By Madness Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:48 am
Very common in Dance Hall styles' I would say...!!!

By mkbaproductions Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:59 pm
dancehall is 2/4 and its different from that hiphop vibe with kick,(kick,snarelayerd)kick,snare
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By Dr. Lecter Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:29 pm
cyrus wrote:i personally dont like beats that do this......i think it looses the satisfaction of the boom boom bap


I'm with ya. 8)
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By trupro Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:50 pm
That's a good technique, man, originally from the disco era.
Pitching the kick a little different, or using an entirely different kick
under the snare, will give that bottom if the snare part doesn't. Also, if this is varied from snare to snare, it makes the beat breath and sound alot less digital. If you mix it properly, you you won;t really hear it as a kick under a snare, it'll just give it more power. Or, you could use the same kick as the kick track, if you really want that '4 on tha floor' disco feel.
By hhtmpc Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:25 am
ur absolutly right...(above).
it does give the snare move umph and power
at just the right volume (barely noticeable) it can give the snare more power..but the other dude is right 2. it can kill the boom bap sound if it is pitched wrong and the volume is too high...
well thankyou guys for ur attention
its nice to know theres places like this where u can have ur questions answered so u dont have to be in the dark about things.
peeace yall
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By DA RIPPER Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:34 am
mkbaproductions wrote:dancehall is 2/4 and its different from that hiphop vibe with kick,(kick,snarelayerd)kick,snare


not neccasary true u can program dancehall at 4\4 with the same feel if u have good timing i do it all the time

By great-fade Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:17 pm
[quote="DA RIPPER"][quote="mkbaproductions"]dancehall is 2/4 and its different from that hiphop vibe with kick,(kick,snarelayerd)kick,snare[/quote]

not neccasary true u can program dancehall at 4\4 with the same feel if u have good timing i do it all the time[/quote]

I do 4/4 too - I find it much simpler actually, but that's probably just because that's how I learned it. BTW - what are some dancehall riddims that use this trick, because of the riddims I've heard, they've all had just kick,kick,snare or snare,snare,kick or various updates on that basic structure.