Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By andromeda Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:08 pm
Hello everyone - I am looking for advice on how you think the first chord progression was created. Quite sure someone with a lot of experience will recognize this sound quickly and know just how it was created.

http://www.discogs.com/Inner-Sense-The- ... ter/370130

TRACK IS CALLED "LOWDOWN" IT SHOULD BE RED!

down the bottom right, first song - about 15 seconds in is where the classic chord progression is.

I'm mainly trying to decipher:
a - Is this sampled or just sequenced straight from a Sound MOd?
B - If it is sampled, are they sampling one chord and than just playing it melodically?
or is it more like he took one scale lets say, and sampled about 5 different chords in the key and than just hits them in a rhythmic pattern on the pads?
C - is this a certain keyboard that just plays this sound and its not really sampled?

To me it sounds like an old sound Module fromt he early 90's ... lets say emu Vintage keys or something like that, Playing a Rhodes type sound. This is a classic sound that was used tons in ninetys house. Rick Wade used this sound all the time.

I'm just dying to know how to recreate that sound! Any help would be appreciated as it's difficult to find info like this. I feel like there are people here that would recognize this sound instantly. But maybe im wrong.... TY
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By Borat Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:47 pm
I'm not sure what it is but it's a quite easy sound to emulate i think. Use a rhodes vsti like Mr Ray73 for example and try to put some effects on it, a filter and maybe a phaser. Then play 7 or 9th chords, they are often used in deep house.
I think that in this particular song, they sampled one chord and just assign it chromatically(16 levels in MPC) and played the chords they wanted to play!

And you can find some useful informations about deep house here:
http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/22-deep-house-production-tips-153784
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By Esquilo Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:04 pm
Oh yeah! Thats the oldest trick in the book man!! Sample a minor 7th chord and play it chromatically until you get the jazz you want. I use this technique on the DAILY!

Then sample chords that arent minor 7ths, 9th's diminished, all sorts of shit. That chromatic progression is what gives it that deep jazzy feel.
By andromeda Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:31 pm
HOLY BINGO BAT MAN!!!

Umm NAILED IT!!! Geez!

ok .. so you really got what you got from sampling Summer madness! I mean you didn't just come close man ... YOU LIKE EXACTLY did that! I mean you really hit it note for note what that guy was doing!

So you just sampled like one Rhodes hit from that record, played it chromatically and got that? Going to work this out tonight! Sheeeooooot!

u in NYC PIper? do ya do lessons? 4 real! Hit me PM stylie

OH and THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT! :mrgreen:
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By peterpiper Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:10 pm
Its the first chord of summer madness. Since this chord is hit four times in the original I used the first hit and the fourth hit for my example.

I'm in germany and I don't do lessons. BTW lessons for what? I'm not a traditional musician and can't read music. If you got two ears you already got what it takes to work things out. Listen. Listen carefully. Listen without doing anything beside. Turn off TV and other stuff and concentrate on the music and sound only and play around with the keys on your keyboard. Thats all I can teach :) Oh and dont forget to have fun.


peace

oh and who is this chick in your avatar ?? :mrgreen:
By terry towelling Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:19 am
here's an instructional video on making a housey minor 7th progression wit sampled chords: A-C-E-G
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHKB1abCI_U

although the rick wade/moodymann/theo parrish mpc style house does sound more like they use the 16 levels approach.
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By thx Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:17 am
peterpiper wrote:If you got two ears you already got what it takes to work things out. Listen. Listen carefully. Listen without doing anything beside. Turn off TV and other stuff and concentrate on the music and sound only and play around with the keys on your keyboard.


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By andromeda Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:16 pm
@ Borat
I think that in this particular song, they sampled one chord and just assign it chromatically(16 levels in MPC) and played the chords they wanted to play!

And you can find some useful informations about deep house here:
http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/ ... ips-153784

Thanks a bunch! & reading as much as possible! Link is spot on for me!

@ Esquilo -
Sample a minor 7th chord and play it chromatically until you get the jazz you want.

YUP!!! thats the ticket!!!! Till ya get tha Jazz you want! Spot on! Gracias! Oh and LOVE That avatar! That is HYSTERICAL!!!! thanks for that too!! :lol:

@ peterpiper
Its the first chord of summer madness.

That was SPOT on! NIce one man!

@ Terry Towelling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHKB1abCI_U

although the rick wade/moodymann/theo parrish mpc style house does sound more like they use the 16 levels approach.

Great Link Man! GOLD!!! Thank YOU!
The Rick Wade/Moodyman style is DEFINITELY my thing!!! i guess the 16 levels approach is a really what they are all doing to get this sound. as Esquilo says " Till ya get tha Jazz you want!" Any more tips on that Detroit Deep sound... Let em rip!!!!
Oh and one quick question - Isnt what the guy is doing in the video basically the same exact thing as 16 levels only he's using the keyboard to trigger instead of the using "MPC 16 Levels" button? Maybe i don't fully understand what the increments precisely are between each pad on the 16 levels, but i think its just a half step (i meant to say 1 semitone... whatev...) between each pad... right? Maybe thats not right.. im unsure. But anway SPOT ON!

@ THX
word :wink:

WORD! :)

Thanks to you all really! Great info = nice thread!

Piece!
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By andromeda Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:36 pm
:lol: ummm sorry ... don't have any idea whom the woman is...
Just googled avatar and was greeted by those wonderful bouncey balloons at the top of the page! = SOLD!

she looks a bit like Kim Kardashian, but i have not the fondest idea of who she is. Just love those Gobstoppers! :shock:
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