By fader-pro
Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:27 pm
Am I the only guy on the boards not using thier MPC for looping vinyl? Jazz / R&B / New age / advertising / sound track & industrial here...


Kid Captain Coolout wrote:To say loops are for the untalented, is an opinion of your own. The only reason i started using loops in the first place was because, they were dope and i didn't have the utilities to record a live drummer. Your techniques are your own, the crowd will decide the rest.

Kid Captain Coolout wrote:Well i guess i'd be... an untalented biter thats just living off another person's expressive talent while pushing the edge of creativity as we know it. I can live with that.




Loops are for the untalented. The only reason people used loops in the first place was because of insuficient memory in the first samplers that came out. There is no excuse these days. I love drum programing.. just check out a few of my tracks I have posted

threshed wrote:Kid Captain Coolout wrote:To say loops are for the untalented, is an opinion of your own. The only reason i started using loops in the first place was because, they were dope and i didn't have the utilities to record a live drummer. Your techniques are your own, the crowd will decide the rest.
Im afraid we might be refering different definitions of the term loop. When I say loop, I mean a repeated or repatative phrase or bar. This can also means a cyclicly repeated sample that doesn't vairy. So my definition of looping is from a compositional perspective. No need to record a live drummer.. So if your saying that you use loops in thier original form without choping or editing them to create a new pattern, then yes.. you are an untalented biter thats just living of another persons expressive talent and you deserve to pay royalties out the ass. But if your permutating, blending, and choping drum loops to create new expressive patterns out of thier segments.. then your pushing the edge of creativity as we know it. And dont sweat to hard.. I dont hate on you if your learning cuz we all have to start somewhere.
Much love to pros and newbies.. may we all surpass eachother time and time again..
psitech wrote:threshed wrote:Kid Captain Coolout wrote:To say loops are for the untalented, is an opinion of your own. The only reason i started using loops in the first place was because, they were dope and i didn't have the utilities to record a live drummer. Your techniques are your own, the crowd will decide the rest.
Im afraid we might be refering different definitions of the term loop. When I say loop, I mean a repeated or repatative phrase or bar. This can also means a cyclicly repeated sample that doesn't vairy. So my definition of looping is from a compositional perspective. No need to record a live drummer.. So if your saying that you use loops in thier original form without choping or editing them to create a new pattern, then yes.. you are an untalented biter thats just living of another persons expressive talent and you deserve to pay royalties out the ass. But if your permutating, blending, and choping drum loops to create new expressive patterns out of thier segments.. then your pushing the edge of creativity as we know it. And dont sweat to hard.. I dont hate on you if your learning cuz we all have to start somewhere.
Much love to pros and newbies.. may we all surpass eachother time and time again..
i totally agree... but think it's a bit wrong to say someone is untalented because someone is using a repeated drumloop, lazy perhaps but not necessarily untalented...
i listened to those tunes and i really liked "exanimate concussions" it's nice to see people using the mpc for dnb, most people seems to use the computer these days.
ok back to topic, i always program my own beats with one shot drumhits
because i have far more control over the beats that way... well i did play with a drumbreak when i started making beats 7 years ago but i was quickly bored... i wanted to be able to program beats like that my self.