Choppit up!!

Interesting tip. If you turn off the 16 levels, and then decide you want to re-program do you have to go through adjusting all the soft starts again when you put 16-level on again? I imagine you would have to.

Hey all, i tried this on my 60ii and couldn't get it to work. I am using the original operating system and not the Roger Linn update. Does this only work with the updated operating system?

Apples wrote:Hey all, i tried this on my 60ii and couldn't get it to work. I am using the original operating system and not the Roger Linn update. Does this only work with the updated operating system?

Yes

Thanks mate

This is actually a cool little trick.

I use it to prechop a sample or to give me an idea of addition chops I can mess around with.

I've been rocking this trick for years. It works best on the 60 & the 3000 because the Velocity field goes as high as 5000. The higher the number the more you chop into the sample. The newer machines can do it but not as well the velocity field only goes to 100 so you are limited. This is some ancient chinese secret shit.

djdynasty wrote:I've been rocking this trick for years. It works best on the 60 & the 3000 because the Velocity field goes as high as 5000. The higher the number the more you chop into the sample. The newer machines can do it but not as well the velocity field only goes to 100 so you are limited. This is some ancient chinese secret ****.

I really dont know what you talking about. My MPC 2000 got a velocity range from 0 to 127.

and in 16 Level Mode are the following values

7, 15, 25, 31, 39, 47, 55, 63, 71, 79, 87, 95, 103, 111, 119, 127

but its very easy to finetune these values in step edit.




peace

EDIT: Oh, maybe you tallking about the "5 second problem" I talked abot in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=112752&start=0&hilit=velocity

Tried this trick last night - worked a treat !!
Only thing that puzzles me slightly is that when I change the SOFT ST parameter (in the Envelope, Velocity etc. screen) it doesn't increment by 1, but by several numbers.
In fact - Im sure I tried inputting some numbers direct and found that it was rounded up...so I'd type in 3000 and it would come out 3010.
Any particular reason for this ?
Also - it might be just me but I found that it was easier to work with when I set the POLY field to NOTE OFF and not MONO. Seemed to get the same effect except this time I could control how much of the chop I wanted played.
Damn good trick though. Thanks once again to Avastyle and others for their explanation of this.

nice one - thanks man!

Seams like an intresting thing to do..
Would this work on a 2500??

I think I do get the idea of how you'd work with that method, but I feel like I'm not fully getting how to actually do the trick in the first place , cos I don't have a certain feature ?

So if any one has experience with that trick on newer machines, please let me know.

PS.:
Don't tell me wether you think it makes sence to do it or not, please! I'm just curious about the work flow, and I think I could do some crazy shit with that method

Hey guys,
Sorry to bringing back this old thread but I have a question regarding this technique.
I was able to set it up and works fine except I don't get equal chops for each pad.
Starting from top right to bottom left first two rows are just little increments of the beginning of the sample, half of the sample is around a6 and final pads seem to contain the largest "chops".

In other words the velocity to sample start amount is not linear.

Can somebody confirm this?

I think it has to do with the original intention of the function which is to emulate a real drummer's nuances while hitting the drums softly.

I'm running the Vailixi OS on the MPC 3000 but got similar results on the 1000.

This makes the trick less useful for me but maybe I should just wrap my head around it and come up with some other usecase for it.

Cheers

im not really sure about the linear thing.

i will say it doesn't really work on samples longer than 5 seconds. 5 seconds should be the absolute max you use. i think the 5000 value in the velocity part equates to 5 seconds. the bottom row of pads are always especially blunt force, even when messing with velocity settings in step edit mode. its more precise near the top pads. this trick is better for quickly getting ideas down. you can get decent results with it if you take off the quantize. sometimes you get odd chops that you would never chop yourself that actually sound pretty good over drums.