best way to sample (example) Brass and isolate it from BG

what you guys would assume is the most effective way to use a Brass riff or even the single hits of it, while there are other sounds interfering

i have one example where theres some guitar sliding thing in the BG ...but quite loud and annoing, but even with intense Eqing i dont get it out good enough.. probably because brass and guitar uses the same frequency spectrum.


in another example i have hh and snare toegtehr with the Brass.. i guess taht should be easier to handle
is the best way to silence parts in between here?

i am just addicted to Green`s / Horns

ion wrote:what you guys would assume is the most effective way to use a Brass riff or even the single hits of it, while there are other sounds interfering

i have one example where theres some guitar sliding thing in the BG ...but quite loud and annoing, but even with intense Eqing i dont get it out good enough.. probably because brass and guitar uses the same frequency spectrum.


in another example i have hh and snare toegtehr with the Brass.. i guess taht should be easier to handle
is the best way to silence parts in between here?

i am just addicted to Green`s / Horns

you could try this, probably wont work... otherwise look for some open horns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEjzdurn ... =1&index=9

i am on MAC

thanks tho


well the horns i really like are really special and fit my music wich is not hiphop... for hiphop you can use much more

any other ideas?

I ran into similar requests from artists when all my beats were sample-based. "Can you flip this-- just take out the vocals" And unfortunately, if you don't have the original multitrack recording it can't be done. Even with a parametric EQ you can't isolate one sound. Even when we use a lowpass filter to finesse a bassline from a sample we haven't isolated one instrument, be it a bass guitar, bass drum or whatever. In fact , we get everything below that "shelf" which just happens to sound delicious in the context of hiphop(Black Moon, anyone?).

A DIY example of this would be to try to put a lowpass filter on a sample with a mid-range vocal on it. Ease the filter lower and lower in frequency trying to get the vocal to go away and by the time it does, all you got left is the kick drum, with only the lowest bass notes.

Here's a trick I use, though:Edirol orchestral vsti has a pretty good "brass section," if you run it through Izotope Vinyl vst you can get some pretty convincing record noise, from subtle to worn-out 45. It has a lot of options for emulating any-era turntable/cartridge combination, but, of course, ain't nothing like the real thing,baby.

To quote Primo from the SCRATCH movie: "If it takes months to find that certain sound I'm lookin' for, then so be it, that's just how long it takes."

thanks for the input

i know edirol ORC from the old days but am on MAC now... its not supported there

but the EQing stuff is interesting

i have quite an Highend Tube EQ with LOW and HIGH pass filters, but still for isolatind midrange stuff..... rather difficult

dunno if i got ur message right but actually i found it not difficult to get a heavy deep bass mostly isolated from the rest... thast possible with filter imo... but midrange is a ****


multitracks are a fine thing tho too bad there arent some multitrack reel to reels flying around ebay, that would be so awsome

Awwww, man pardon my mac ignorance. I didn't know they didn't support vst

ion wrote:i am on MAC

thanks tho

any other ideas?

im on a mac too.

pan hard left or right whilst recording?

no other suggestions.

this is exactly why i said your 300 samples off a record method is useless in the other thread.

four eyes wrote:this is exactly why i said your 300 samples off a record method is useless in the other thread.

but he didnt say in that thread "im sampling stuff i cant even use"

how did you know?......

he never said they were usable either. there's no way your gonna pull that many isolated usable samples off every record. it's common sense.

depends on the record + the sampling manner (multi...)

whatever....





of course there will be stuff in between that i may not use or later find they sounded cool but dont fit in my musical approach...
+ there will be samples with errors....


of course!


well off topic