MPC Quantize Swing

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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By The Grublet Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:35 pm
if you play, you will learn, young jedi.


you would have had everything figured out of you tried it. instead of reading our ish.

Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By fader-pro Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:21 pm
Fung45 wrote:
fader-pro wrote:It's a great tool and one of the long list of reasons to use an MPC vs software.

fixed.


Thanks fung but it's not my quote. Even as I wrote it, I was being generous to the MPC's. Software has come a long ways in a few short years. These day's it's really down to personal preference. 10 years ago I would have said you couldn't touch the MPC with software, but it's just not true anymore. I only stick with it because I've been using one for 20 years (I started sequencing on a Beta version of the MPC60) so it's become a very familiar paprt of my process.
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By bicedidit Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:24 pm
heres a trick i use sometimes.

turn quantize off and turn the sequence into a 1 bar loop.

now program ur hi hiats, snares and kics within that 1 bar loop with quantize off. when ur satisfied with the programming of the 1 bar loop, go into song mode and turn ur 1 bar loop into a 4 or 8 bar loop. no go into erase screen and erase a note here or there, or add a couple kicks/snares/hihiats.

now u have a 4 bar loop with quantize off and the pattern is consistent
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By peterpiper Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:10 pm
bicedidit wrote:heres a trick i use sometimes.

turn quantize off and turn the sequence into a 1 bar loop.

now program ur hi hiats, snares and kics within that 1 bar loop with quantize off. when ur satisfied with the programming of the 1 bar loop, go into song mode and turn ur 1 bar loop into a 4 or 8 bar loop. no go into erase screen and erase a note here or there, or add a couple kicks/snares/hihiats.

now u have a 4 bar loop with quantize off and the pattern is consistent


Hey thats a nice technique. Thanks

peace
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By four eyes Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:07 am
your drums are slightly off in spots but i found more issue with the erratic nature of the drum pattern you made. sometimes less is more depending on the sample you're layering drums on top of.

Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By mister_sosa74 Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:43 am
yea the drums is definitely off just turn the TC off and then try it...
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By Explicit- Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:45 pm
I change it up all the time.
You never want to sound the same.

One beat dont quantize. Then quantize at 1/16 on one beat then mix it up on ther other and do both... Theres no wrong or right way as long as your drums sound good.

Just try it all. Alot of times I just boot up the 2500 and load up a drum program and try to make the same drum pattern but with different quantize setups; snare & kicks at 1/16(3) then hats with quantized turned off and then try no quantize at all and also mess around with the swing %. Then listen to them and notice the differences...

Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By DJEther Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:11 am
Even w/ TC off, anyone just starting, cannot play on beat right off the bat.

It takes time.

you can tell the difference between a person w/ TC off thats been doin it for a while versus a person just starting w/ TC off.

yea, i know practice makes perfect but dont just quantize and leave the shit alone....

shift notes and mess w/ the early and late settings.
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By Blue Haze Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:10 pm
My two cents turn on the metronome only for the count-in, not for the recording itself with t/c off and tap your feet and you can always quantize later if need be at 1/32nd or 1/64 depending on your mpc. You may hear your rhythm and timing better.

Quantizing at a higher resolution moves your notes less plus you can still use step edit for ghost notes and such.
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By Doglamp Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:34 pm
^^^ Or you could edit them individually for more swing. Tapping your feet is really good, too. I don't do that though, I shake my leg. It's like your own metronome. It might sound corny, but it really works.
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By -niN Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:17 pm
I used t work wit FLstudio and got sick of that quantized sound plus theres no feel if you just drag and drop yer drums into the 16th u want it in. I wanted to touch my beats into place so it feels right.

not evryone digs offbeat stuff. I luvit. sometimes I get varried away and need to get a grip and back in beat.

friend o mine who's an MC once said about one of my Beats; " that's sumtn for ur own head, I preffer straight beats"

whats off and whats not can be a matter of taste I think
you need to practice and develope feeling for timing.

sometimes I just record 16 bars of drums in one track just for practice
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By Doglamp Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:41 pm
-niN wrote:I used t work wit FLstudio and got sick of that quantized sound plus theres no feel if you just drag and drop yer drums into the 16th u want it in. I wanted to touch my beats into place so it feels right.

You obviously didn't know how to work with it. :wink:
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Re: MPC Quantize Swing

By deck daddy Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:19 pm
Something works well timing corrected, something don't work that well and may sound robotic/stiff like it's played by a machine and not a human...

If I use say 5 different snare drum samples, 5 hi-hat samples, and two kicks, it may work very well to use the timing correct feature. If you rock one kick, one snare and one hi-hat sample, it may sound really machine-y. It can help a lot to not use the full level feature on the hi-hats. Placing the snares a bit earlier and some samples and bass lines a bit later may help too.

I just made a beat today where everything was recorded without timing correction. Some days ago I made a beat where everything was timing corrected. I think both ways do work, but it depends on what sound you're after. Sloppy or super tight?
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