Saving problems

I have following problems with saving :

1) yesterday I created a Project with 10 Programs with 64 samples each. When I saved 'entire memory', in one folder all files are saved : so more then 640 files. Then I change a sequence or whatever (fx settinsg, etc) and I want to save this updated project. I just want to overwrite the original one, but it my MPC freezes up while writing the project file. It seems it can not deal with folders containing a lot of files.

It seems that saving entire memory saves all samples/sequences/etc in one folder (without subfolders) but that MPC gets into trouble when there are too much files in one folder. I have no idea how to workaround.

Now I only got 640 samples and it seems MPC can't handle it...although it should be capable of handling 64 sounds*99 Programs *4 layers = 25344 samples... and 650 allready giving a problem ! (well, basically a whole evening of work down to the drain as the MPC froze up while saving the Project file , not the samples)
Any thoughts or comments ?

2) imagine above would have succeeded. I load the Project again, make some sequences with it and FX settings. If I want to save this, I can do the 'save entire memory' again which takes quite some time (and not needed as the samples are allready there)
Save all sequences and songs then...so far so good but I also want my FX !

OK tackled 2) myself : Fx settings are saved when saving 'all sequences and songs'

If somone could try 1) (so : make a folder of 600 drumhits or so, then -even without loading these samples- save a project in this folder

after you same entire memory the first time successfully,

you don't really 'need' to do that again.

because what is 'save entire memory' ultimately? ...is is only "save all songs & sequences" and also "save all programs & sounds" those 4 things represent everything that there is to save.

so try to break it down into this two step process to see if it is easier on the machine.

or, ...try only saving the changes you make, ...for example if you only change one program, ...then save only that program with its samples.

***THIS DOES NOT SLOW UP YOUR WORK FLOW IN ANY WAY***
we have only talked about using ONE save option instead of ANOTHER save option.

you may only get mad that it seems to not be working for you, ...but swallow your anger, or use it to push your creativity, ...we only have so much time to get out the best stuff from inside ourselves by using the machine and its counterparts to their full potentional.

seiko wrote:If somone could try 1) (so : make a folder of 600 drumhits or so, then -even without loading these samples- save a project in this folder

I got more then that... and im good

oneday2one wrote:after you same entire memory the first time successfully,

you don't really 'need' to do that again.

because what is 'save entire memory' ultimately? ...is is only "save all songs & sequences" and also "save all programs & sounds" those 4 things represent everything that there is to save.

so try to break it down into this two step process to see if it is easier on the machine.

or, ...try only saving the changes you make, ...for example if you only change one program, ...then save only that program with its samples.

***THIS DOES NOT SLOW UP YOUR WORK FLOW IN ANY WAY***
we have only talked about using ONE save option instead of ANOTHER save option.

you may only get mad that it seems to not be working for you, ...but swallow your anger, or use it to push your creativity, ...we only have so much time to get out the best stuff from inside ourselves by using the machine and its counterparts to their full potentional.

thanks...but my confusion was how to save the Fx...it was not clear wether this would be saved with 'save all songs & sequences' OR only when doing a 'save entire memory'
it seems it saves with the 'songs and sequences'

seiko wrote:I have following problems with saving :

1) yesterday I created a Project with 10 Programs with 64 samples each. When I saved 'entire memory', in one folder all files are saved : so more then 640 files. Then I change a sequence or whatever (fx settinsg, etc) and I want to save this updated project. I just want to overwrite the original one, but it my MPC freezes up while writing the project file. It seems it can not deal with folders containing a lot of files.

Yes it can. I have saved and loaded dozens of times folders with much more files (for testing purposes) without any problems on 2.0.

There might be something else going on. Can you reproduce the freeze? By loading that project, change the same thing on your sequence or FX setting and then saving all again?

Hi,
I did some more testing and it seems the 'freezing' I was talking about, eventually goes back to normal , I just have to wait long enough (half a minute or so) so it looks ok.
I have to add that I am doing this on a CF, maybe that's why it takes so long. I disabled my harddrive because for my ears it just makes too much noise...allthough it's a new one it has a very high pitched noise that I really can not stand while making music (even when I put my monitors loud, when I stop my sequence to adjust something, I don't like extra noises)

seiko wrote:Hi,
I did some more testing and it seems the 'freezing' I was talking about, eventually goes back to normal , I just have to wait long enough (half a minute or so) so it looks ok.
I have to add that I am doing this on a CF, maybe that's why it takes so long. I disabled my harddrive because for my ears it just makes too much noise...allthough it's a new one it has a very high pitched noise that I really can not stand while making music (even when I put my monitors loud, when I stop my sequence to adjust something, I don't like extra noises)

Ok, that makes sense. The CF cards are of course a lot slower than a harddrive. Too bad about that noise!

also, did you format the CF card from the MPC BEFORE using it?


Backup your sounds and see if formatting from the MPC speeds things up. Be sure to initialize the system after you format (hold down the erase button while powering up).