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Should jj axe chord or arp. and bring back simult.???

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By trybtek Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:40 pm
JJ may have made 4 os's but he hasnt made one complete os, an os that has ALL the usefull features included.
As i've stated earlier all osXL needs is to have a useable Simult function, one that works in a traditional manner but doesn't need to be the old code (which caused issues).
Come on JJ i know you can do it!
Peace!
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By savilion Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:41 pm
well well .....simult was around on my old 2000 my xl the 4000 the 3000 the 60 with the new os ....it would be sooooo nice to have it all on one os ....so I can use the chord feature and edit my simult drums in step or grid....if jj can make this happen....this will be the most complete os ... there is better ways of layering i moved to battery 3 when the only option was the akai os with no simult....but now that jj is adding quantize strength and all these amazing features I want to stay away from looking at a screen or moving a mouse ....I find a more enjoyable work flow filtering drums in my mpc hopefully things get fixed ..
By Captain Murphy Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:15 am
No doubt NYM. Actually, I'm happy with the way OSXL is right now. :)

I love what JJ has done. He gave Us 4 Different OS's That work. He can't make everybody happy, but he def made me happy.

I say Make music, and Stop Complaining already.

Thats the only downfall of this Message Board thing.



True, he cant make everyone and thats not exactly a revelation on your part, but simult was a really key feature. If nothing else the mpc is primarily used for drum programming... Simult is key in building great drums for me and a lot of people. This isn't an issue to be marginalized by some overly simplistic statement about jj not being able to make everyone happy...
By GrantB Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:02 am
Captain Murphy wrote:
No doubt NYM. Actually, I'm happy with the way OSXL is right now. :)

I love what JJ has done. He gave Us 4 Different OS's That work. He can't make everybody happy, but he def made me happy.

I say Make music, and Stop Complaining already.

Thats the only downfall of this Message Board thing.



True, he cant make everyone and thats not exactly a revelation on your part, but simult was a really key feature. If nothing else the mpc is primarily used for drum programming... Simult is key in building great drums for me and a lot of people. This isn't an issue to be marginalized by some overly simplistic statement about jj not being able to make everyone happy...


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This is important
By master-ceo Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:32 pm
Alright ya'll got me. Bring it Back :cool:

I guess I was nonchalant about it, because I use more than 1 piece of gear to build beats.
By Captain Murphy Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:53 am
Nym wrote:^ not referring to you, masterceo, but folks with no insight as to how the whole thing works really need to stop with the whole "give and take" concept. that's not how it works - that's a very "os1 way of thinking"


I disagree, if jj could "take" away some of the functionality of simult and "give" us new features such as chord and arp then surely some tweaks could be made to bring back simult in all of its glory. Maybe its not chord or arp preventing simult from full functionality but something else I'm not aware of, regardless, seeing as how the os can't occupy more than a MB of space something else might have to be "taken" away. I don't want this to be about semantics.
By dtaa pla muk Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:19 am
regardless, seeing as how the os can't occupy more than a MB of space something else might have to be "taken" away.


this is incorrect.

it's not about semantics, it's about you and others not understanding how this works. sorry. for starters, there's not a 1 mb space limit in os 2/2xl but rather something like 5 mb since it resides in a different part of the mpc's memory.

size/space is not what keeps old simult specification from existing in os2xl, it's the problems created by the method by which old simult existed as we know it in previous os's that keeps it from os2xl.

so - all this talk of giving and taking is, again, very "os1" - which DID have a size limit of a little under 1mb.
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By trybtek Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:58 am
As I've thought from the start this poll should have never been about removing features! only getting features back! well Simult back!
Regardless if "old Simult" conflicted within the current os there has to be a way to re-write the function so it works.
If JJ was prepared to re-write the way pads and notes functioned in order to allow chord and arp to function correctly then he should be prepared to re-write simult to function correctly.
This is an issue that needs to be resolved. Hopefully JJ understands that this is such an important function of the MPC that it cannot be over looked!
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By elevated Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:05 pm
Hear, Hear! :wink:

Look at that vote count. Unbelievable, it's currently 26 to 2. I bet this is the biggest landslide in MPC-Forums history.
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By Coz Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:39 pm
I can see the Arp being a useful feature but it needs enhancing as it is very basic at the moment. And if there is code space i'm sure he could put Simult back into the equation somehow.
By Captain Murphy Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:26 pm
Nym wrote:
regardless, seeing as how the os can't occupy more than a MB of space something else might have to be "taken" away.


this is incorrect.

it's not about semantics, it's about you and others not understanding how this works. sorry. for starters, there's not a 1 mb space limit in os 2/2xl but rather something like 5 mb since it resides in a different part of the mpc's memory.

size/space is not what keeps old simult specification from existing in os2xl, it's the problems created by the method by which old simult existed as we know it in previous os's that keeps it from os2xl.

so - all this talk of giving and taking is, again, very "os1" - which DID have a size limit of a little under 1mb.


Fair enough, I used arp and chord as a for instance, however the main point is simult needs to come back. Obviously whatever was changed, modified, tweaked, or "taken" away somehow interfered with simult being available in its full form. Otherwise why is it not available as it once was, same as in os2 when the 2nd filter was removed, jj obviously couldn't fit it in there because of something else being changed in some form or another. I still think you're missing the point though.
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By elevated Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:50 pm
Captain Murphy wrote:Thanks to all who voted, lets hope jj takes notice!!! Keep hittin him with emails also!!!


Great job making this poll, unbelievable turn out! Everyone, please keep in mind that JJ and company have never been known to read these forums. Simply writing it here gives them zero feedback.

I think the best thing we can do is have someone write them and point out this poll in Japanese. If anyone can help with that, please step forward.