why multiple outputs?

why multiple outputs? why go out and buy an interface with more outs when it already has two stereo outs? why would i need 8?

well the nswer is simple, it is MIXING

Mixing a song allows all the "tracks" (generally only one instrument is put on a "track") of the song to be finely tune (you can tune the how loud it is, if you want to add some echo taht's what we call "reverb",...).
At the end, if you want one of the sounds (let's say the "snare drum") to be louder or quieter than the others, you have to set its track lower than the other ones.

Having multiple outputs allows you to connect and record directly your MPC on a mixer to tune the volume and add effectx ("reverb",...) to each sounds to make your final song sound good and "balanced"...

if you had only two outs, you wouldn't be able to tune each sound directly

you would have to record each sound one by one (or two by two) to then mix the track
if you have like 8 tracks in your song, it would take 4 more times to record it and then mix it than if you had 8 outs, simple as that...

misterv wrote:well the nswer is simple, it is MIXING
(you can tune the how loud it is, if you want to add some echo taht's what we call "reverb",...).
...

echo and reverb are two different things

Also: the MPC1000 doesn't have a Delay effect - so I use my old Korg DL8000R, synced to the MPC tempo via MIDI.
- When I want to slap a delay on a sound I route it to Outs 3/4, which are hooked up to the DL8000R Ins.
- From the DL8000R out it goes to the mixing desk
- I also send the DL8000R some MIDI Continuous Controller (CC) messages to change parameters. Example: a slap echo on the 3rd snare beat in a bar, so I change the Delay Level by CC just before the beat, then turn it back down later.

You can do the same with any wacko effect you have lying around - fuzzboxes, whatever! Just don't go overboard...!

dstruction wrote:

misterv wrote:well the nswer is simple, it is MIXING
(you can tune the how loud it is, if you want to add some echo taht's what we call "reverb",...).
...

echo and reverb are two different things

true that

it's just that they are both quite close

and when you're startin out i think it's better considering them as almost the same kind of effect

misterv wrote:

dstruction wrote:
echo and reverb are two different things

true that

it's just that they are both quite close

and when you're startin out i think it's better considering them as almost the same kind of effect

If it helps, this is a good way to remember the difference, as they are used these days:
Reverb = trying to recreate the sound of a room or environment. That might include delay (hard walls) but only Reverb gives you that "blurring" or "diffusion" as the echoes mix, collide, cancel out and fade away - as in a real room.
Tape Delay was one original attempt to get reverb-type results, but it became an effect in its own right.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...

Rather than start a new topic on this.... I've the 8 outs installed on my mpc2k but am considering an Eb16 too, is this a waste of time considering they're about £250 brand new? And would I need at least an 8 track mixer to assign each sound for effects? I get very confused with the technicalities as I just want some crazy effects without blowing to much dosh. I've got an Alesis multimix 6fx mixer but but can't fathom the whole line/aux/send/input/return etc etc, as a musical novice you can imagine the nightmare i'm havin' here.....

I have heard that the eb-16 is a waste of money.......I read in a very old post that an out board fx unit would be better........read some reviews and check it out for your self fam

The advantage of an EB16 is you don't need any extra cables or wall wart power supplies to hook it up. It just plugs into a slot inside the sampler. Having the FX internal also cuts down on noise and you don't have to run the sound out the sampler's DACs into the the FX's ADCs and then out the FX's DACs, which degrades signal quality. The EB16 will also not take up any more space in your studio. If you get one, why not buy used?

The disadvantage of the EB16 is if you want to run anything through it you'll have to sample it first. Other FX units you can usually just hook up to a mixer's aux sends and receives. An outboard unit may be higher quality and more versatile than the EB16 depending on what you're looking at. I'd go outboard personally. The EB16 would be handy for live usage though.

What kind of effects are in the EB16? Is there anything on it besides effects?

dont confuse the boy with inaccurate info..reverb and echo aren't the same.....

greg

More info on the EB16 here:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--AKAEB16

Forax wrote:More info on the EB16 here:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--AKAEB16

Thanks

can you get by without the 8 out puts, if you have a computer to record to ?? say if you hook the audio cables of your sound card on the computer to the back of the mpc, and then record each track there...but wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having one of the most powerful sequencers for your song in the MPC and instead arranging everything in the computer?
or
would buying the 8 output board be easier to make a track??

8 outs is like a freeway, you can route traffic to different parts of the city effortlessly cause so many cars wanna get to different places right?

8 outs routes your sounds to different tracks so you can further process them individually of each other. Of course you would need a soundcard with multiple ins and multitracking software.

Yes, you can get by without 8outs. I have never had 8outs on my xl and I do just fine.

EB stands for effects board. Nothing else. Computer software and outboard gear do a better job at effects if you have it or have the loot for it.