MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
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By Perrin&Tonic Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:07 am
SO after a few hours of productivity...

while in record mode,
the screen flashed "error - - - ",
and it is now making a loud ringing buzzing tone that will not go away.
i cannot play any sequences
when in program mode, all of the samples i had loaded now read: error.
I cannot save my work - everything is error

is there a control alt del button somewhere?

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!


:evil:
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By Perrin&Tonic Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:17 am
*note - this happened while I had the unit plugged into my laptop and was sampling a DVD.
could that have anything to do with it?
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By Perrin&Tonic Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:55 am
UPDATE - I turned it off last night and lost what was on there.
I turned it on today and it immediately went to a screen that read:

ERROR (HD) Bad FAT Sector

then i clicked "OK" and it looks normal.

what is a bad FAT sector and how do I get rid of it?

MUCH THANKS TO ANYONE WHO CAN BE OF ADVICE!!!
By b-righteous Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:03 am
Bad hard disk. You may be able to fix by formating the hard disk. If you do, make sure to back up every thing on the HD since the format will erase everything. If that does not work you will need to replace the hard disk. Is it still under warranty? If you are not comfortable replacing the hard disk I would call Akai support.
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By Perrin&Tonic Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:22 am
yeah the HD is done.
it reads: invalid FS on HD.

i cant load any thing from the HD.

im gonna back up everything on my on my laptop i guess,
and then reformat it.

my guess is that it needs to be replaced intirely
i just got it two months ago, so it is still under warranty.

thanks.
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By Perrin&Tonic Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:38 pm
OK. This should be the final update.
PLEASE READ and give me your advice.

SO the MPC5000 is fried and needs to be repaired.
Again, it was purchased on 2/27/09.

I have two options:

1) Go through the one-year AKAI warranty and send it back to them.
Shipping will cost however much - like $50.
Turnaround time is two weeks.

2) Take it back to Guitar Center - buy their performance warranty (either one year at $180 or 2 years at $250) which covers EVERYTHING. Basically I would get a new one in stock in the box right away, and if anything else happens to it within the warranty period, they give me a new one. So if something breaks three times during that period, i would get a new one each time. I would also have the option to renew the warranty when expired.

So, I'm leaning towards the Guitar Center Warranty, because knowing my luck, the thing will go out on me again!!! Even if its something little like a pad or knob breaking, they replace it 100%

PLEASE let me know your thoughts, advice, etc.
Absolutely absurd I spend the $$ on an MPC5000 and it goes in less than two months.

THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU!!!!
By 4dahaterz Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:45 pm
Whats up Chris... Man I kinda understand how you feel, not that i know exactly, but we all have had an incident where we get something(especially electronics), and it messes up as soon as we get it, well some of us. But hopefully you will be back at poundin on the MPC again

If I were you, id probably go ahead and get the warranty from Guitar Center if you have the extra dough, because you wouldnt have to wait on that turn around time. But if you have time to just sit back for two weeks and wait, well, id send it back to Akai and let them do what they do(although that time is probably is just an estimate).

Thats just my ideas on it, goodluck homie
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By dubkutter Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:00 am
Go for Number 2...

I feel for you man....
If it helps...
No two machine is ever the same..

I have a 2000XL that never gave any problems up to date, except for the fader which I broke myself.. Thats been repaired now.
I've had a DPS24 that was a constant pain I had to send it back for repair and then the new one came with a new unique set of problems..
Still loved the machine though when it was working it was a Joy lightyears ahead of its competitors.

My 5000 has been perfect even after trying to fit extra memory with Gardening gloves....

Everyone is different....

Dont give up
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By Perrin&Tonic Mon May 04, 2009 5:21 pm
I purchased the 2-year Performance Warranty through Guitar Center for $211.00.

I got a new one on the spot and am good for 24 months, starting this month.

Seems to work well.
The wheel is much more accurate than before.

Hopefully this one will last more than two months!
But if not, I am gauarunteed another for the next two years.

Regardless,
I am considering writing a letter to AKAI,
simply to inform them that their flagship MPC went out after two months.
A HD should not go out that quickly. I am willing to guess they are cutting corners somewhere.

The only thing that sucks is that, I LOST ALL OF MY WORK FROM TWO MONTHS, except for the samples/programs I saved on the CF card. The sequences and projects do not load correctly. SO BACK UP YOUR WORK ONTO AN EXT HD!!!
By 4dahaterz Mon May 04, 2009 6:38 pm
chrisperrin wrote:I purchased the 2-year Performance Warranty through Guitar Center for $211.00.

I got a new one on the spot and am good for 24 months, starting this month.

Seems to work well.
The wheel is much more accurate than before.

Hopefully this one will last more than two months!
But if not, I am gauarunteed another for the next two years.

Regardless,
I am considering writing a letter to AKAI,
simply to inform them that their flagship MPC went out after two months.
A HD should not go out that quickly. I am willing to guess they are cutting corners somewhere.

The only thing that sucks is that, I LOST ALL OF MY WORK FROM TWO MONTHS, except for the samples/programs I saved on the CF card. The sequences and projects do not load correctly. SO BACK UP YOUR WORK ONTO AN EXT HD!!!


I know you are pissed, id be too.... But dealing with electronics, especially HardDrives, they dont have a death date... Even in computers, its just one of those unlucky things homie when dealing with electronics...

Goodluck with your new MPC
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By UBANKRECORDS Thu May 21, 2009 12:12 pm

I know you are pissed, id be too.... But dealing with electronics, especially HardDrives, they dont have a death date... Even in computers, its just one of those unlucky things homie when dealing with electronics...


no doubt
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By ArKyve-31 Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:32 pm
Whenever you see the word "FAT" in any system that means "Failed read of file Allocation Table" it is the mother of F*ck ^ps in hard drives and file storage (jump drives, flash cards) I worked for a sam ash and i sent my first 7 5000 back to akai because of this
By moyphee Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:17 pm
FrankieMonroe wrote:Whenever you see the word "FAT" in any system that means "Failed read of file Allocation Table" it is the mother of F*ck ^ps in hard drives and file storage (jump drives, flash cards) I worked for a sam ash and i sent my first 7 5000 back to akai because of this


Inaccurate - FAT simply means "File Allocation Table" and doesn't mean that there is any failure to read. The structural protocol implemented with the FAT format is lightweight but easy to corrupt. The "not so bad" news is that a blind read of the HD will almost always show that the files on the drive stay intact even if the OS can't find them. The only headache is removing the drive to mount it on a PC/Mac/LX box.

Fail messages include "file not found", file not accessible or some variable of " I can't find it.". Even then all isn't lost. Samplers usually don't do a full HD format. What that means that the filled sectors are marked for overwrite but but remain intact until they actually are. This why you recover a file on standard OS like Mac,Win, or Lin. In that case simply marking disk space as available or unavailable- but the file itself isn't actually moved anywhere. In catastrophic situation many of your files may still be retrievable using recovery software or by scanning the drive via command line.
By 4dahaterz Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:23 pm
moyphee wrote:
Fail messages include "file not found", file not accessible or some variable of " I can't find it.". Even then all isn't lost. Samplers usually don't do a full HD format. What that means that the filled sectors are marked for overwrite but but remain intact until they actually are. This why you recover a file on standard OS like Mac,Win, or Lin. In that case simply marking disk space as available or unavailable- but the file itself isn't actually moved anywhere. In catastrophic situation many of your files may still be retrievable using recovery software or by scanning the drive via command line.


He is correct... I have been doing my share of HardDrive studying all of last weekend, trying to place and format a Western Digital Caviar Drive that doesnt work well with the MPC 5000...

However, i did find some software that says that it Wipes the Drive clean by wiping over all of the sectors on the drive to get rid of the data(somewhat like a VHS Tape back in the day, you know VHS's could only be written over to delete whats on em). The software is called "WipeDrive".