Rules of sampling?

poundaproblem wrote:^ not exactly, I sell beats quite often and get WAY more than $50 bucks. Thats not even worth the time. You need to just put together a good "agreement". On mine regardless how much I sell the track for its stated that the artist and his/her management are responsible for obtaining the rights to any sampled material that may be in the production. I tell them they are paying me for both the studio time it takes to produce track and the concept. Then I tell them where the sample came from and collect my $$$.

yea thats actually a good point, cause then it takes ur responsibility for clearance out cause u've made it clear its there's

if your the artist and making beats using uncleared samples you might not be able to sell those particular records officially but it wont exactly stop you from performing those tracks live at a show. so at least some money can be made getting paid to be in shows if you have enough of a buzz going.

nobody sues cover bands for playing other peoples stuff.

plus you could sell stuff that has cleared or unrecognizable samples as well.

thats what i would do. i would make beats with even way recognizable samples leak them online or on bootleg and strictly perform them at shows. i dont know why most artists dont do this. if they cant clear a sample usually the track will not see the light of day. i think they would create a larger buzz for themselves if they gave out these tracks for free, performed them at shows, and people would be more inclined to buy the rest of their stuff that is actually official.

that was a good documentary
and its funny to see where the pirate bay stands now
thats crazy

us dont play around..

four eyes wrote:if your the artist and making beats using uncleared samples you might not be able to sell those particular records officially but it wont exactly stop you from performing those tracks live at a show. so at least some money can be made getting paid to be in shows if you have enough of a buzz going.

nobody sues cover bands for playing other peoples stuff.

plus you could sell stuff that has cleared or unrecognizable samples as well.

thats what i would do. i would make beats with even way recognizable samples leak them online or on bootleg and strictly perform them at shows. i dont know why most artists dont do this. if they cant clear a sample usually the track will not see the light of day. i think they would create a larger buzz for themselves if they gave out these tracks for free, performed them at shows, and people would be more inclined to buy the rest of their stuff that is actually official.

that is my tactic, I dont sell CD's with recognisable stuff on it but I have a few "niche" tracks only for live situations... however If I was a major leaguer I dont see myself wanting to risk playing them and getting sued.

KidQuan wrote:its funny to see where the pirate bay stands now
thats crazy

the pirate bay is still up and running, so.... what do you mean?

the pirate bay is still up and running, so.... what do you mean?

I think he means:

The BBC reports that four men involved with the file sharing site The Pirate Bay -- including three of its founders -- have been found guilty in a Swedish court for breaking copyright law. The four men, Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde have been sentenced to a year in prison and fined $4.5 million* in damages, well short of the $17.5 million sought by entertainment companies allegedly harmed by the site. The men plan to appeal the verdict.

The newest about the pirate bay process is that the judge is member of two copyright lobby organizations so he is prejudiced and the adjudgement is not legal.

peace

poundaproblem wrote:on my production agreements I state that the artists is responsible for obtaining sample clearance. As soon as they sign its not my problem any more.

do you keep all the samples you use documented? and if so is that like common practice amongst producers?

I document everything. I can pull up data on tracks I produced 10 years ago if need be. I catalog every synth, patch, sample instrument used. I also label every record I get a sample off of. Seems like overkill at first until someone wants to buy a beat and you cant find the master to track it out and dont have all the data to remake it.

Damn Pound, not that that's overkill, but it is a lot! I know I should be doing that too! I do keep all my synth/patch info and settings though. I usually type them in on the track in the MPC! But I don't document my samples. I got a lot of shit I can't remember where the sample came from.

poundaproblem wrote:I document everything. I can pull up data on tracks I produced 10 years ago if need be. I catalog every synth, patch, sample instrument used. I also label every record I get a sample off of. Seems like overkill at first until someone wants to buy a beat and you cant find the master to track it out and dont have all the data to remake it.

nah man that def makes since. i need to start doing that, i keep my master programs and sequences sorted but i don't always document the sample.