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By Fung45 Wed May 13, 2009 12:55 am
emptysea wrote:Other than being the first ever hardware to:

- offer Korg Electribe style hardware step sequencer

First of all that statement contradicts its self seeing as the Electribe is a piece of hardware.
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By DJEther Wed May 13, 2009 1:37 am
ill just wait until YOU actually GET IT and then you sell it....

Defending a product that you have no experience with or even have....tisk tisk

I really couldnt care anymore....im suprised this thread has gotten as far as it has..

keep bitching about how Maschine is the shit....

Ill probably will buy it at some point but its not something im dying over and bitching about.
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By emptysea Wed May 13, 2009 3:17 am
Fung45 wrote:
emptysea wrote:Other than being the first ever hardware to:

- offer Korg Electribe style hardware step sequencer

[color=lime]First of all that statement contradicts its self seeing as the Electribe is a piece of hardware

Isn't it funny how you can quote only part of a sentence, out of context and have it make it say what you want instead?

emptysea wrote:
DJEther wrote:the only thing that separates Maschine from other midi controllers is that it has its own dedicated software to use with the hardware controller.

The others like the trigger finger, MPD's, and the such dont have a dedicated piece of software, is intended for use w/ many other software and people have to set them up on their own.
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the only thing that i see thats so "SPECIAL" about Maschine is that it offers screens to display the data and some other little features and THATS IT.

Other than being the first ever hardware to:

- offer Korg Electribe style hardware step sequencer with visual and tactile feedback that integrates seemlessly with a software DAW setup.

- offer a clip matrix controller mode for Ableton Live before Akai's APC40 has even hit the market.

- works just like hardware should without starting at a computer screen for the most part if you want, with the obvious advantages of a dedicated hardware workflow, yet also benefit from the obvious advantages of the power and flexibility of the computer.

Those three features alone for me is enough to make it desirable.
By DJEther Wed May 13, 2009 3:41 am
man you gotta love the internet.......

Ill be sold when I see a person use the Maschine w/ their computer screen turned off the whole time.
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By mr_debauch Wed May 13, 2009 3:46 am
DJEther wrote:man you gotta love the internet.......

Ill be sold when I see a person use the Maschine w/ their computer screen turned off the whole time.



or better yet.. they have the mashine set up in the "start up" folder so it automatically opens when the computer is turned on... and disconnect the screen all together.
By b-righteous Wed May 13, 2009 4:11 am
You guys are being extreme. It's not a contest to see if you NEVER have to look at the screen. This part Maschine has down. The hands on experience is nice. It's just lacking a lot of simple features. Hands on wise it's just as intuitive as an MPC. Just needs better sample edit, midi in and out etc.

You guys must have a break down every time the computer screen is on. I can understand to a point but it isn't that serious.
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By mr_debauch Wed May 13, 2009 4:19 am
b-righteous wrote:You guys are being extreme. It's not a contest to see if you NEVER have to look at the screen. This part Maschine has down. The hands on experience is nice. It's just lacking a lot of simple features. Hands on wise it's just as intuitive as an MPC. Just needs better sample edit, midi in and out etc.

You guys must have a break down every time the computer screen is on. I can understand to a point but it isn't that serious.



lol, true... haha, I was just kidding around. (the disconnecting screen idea would be sweet though! lol)


the people who hate computers wont even find out about this product unless they happen to be in the software department of the music store.
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By Lotuz Wed May 13, 2009 2:59 pm
derky wrote:great sample based maschine video (sorry if this has already been posted);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S17t5jlE ... re=channel



Here's a new vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSD3rCPp1E

:)
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By Grime Wed May 13, 2009 9:44 pm
TheFrozenOne wrote:i got my mpc to get away from the computer.

x2

this is just ableton live, in a "hardware unit"...for $4000

EDIT: nvm, thats the other one...this one actually does look promising, but still I'll stick to the MP for now
By FredFrank Wed May 13, 2009 10:46 pm
I sincerely mean no disrespect, this is just a musical opinion I'm expressing and nothing more but all of the maschine clips I've seen to date are extremely wack, not trying to put anybody down personaly or say that my music is better than any maschine users I'm only saying that everything I've heard including the latest round of vids on the ableton forum and this one of maschine in action sound awful. I wouldn't want to hear those beats coming out of an mpc either but for a new product that is suppose to make things so much easier, better, or whatever phrase that is being used today to proclaim that maschine is better than an mpc. I know one thing, it doesn't sound like it.
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By The Machinist Thu May 14, 2009 1:11 am
FredFrank wrote:See above.


That sounds like a valid opinion to me, one that I'd have to agree with. I don't think that these bad results are a reflection of what the Maschine is capable of though. To be honest, most of the music I've heard put out by Akai at trade shows using the MPC line was just as bad, not to mention all the garbage I hear from a lot of MPC users on these Soundclick, Youtube and Myspace type sites. However, we both know lots of great music was made with the MPC line as well as lots of other machines. I try to look at machines as far as what they're capable of or what it can be forced to do, not what their users are capable of or what it was designed to do. I believe anything capable of making sounds or sampling them can be used to do something creative and impressive if put in the hands of a person so inclined (even with bugs) -- the MPCs have had the longevity to prove this. In the grand perspective, the MPC line themselves are actually very basic machines themselves that don't do any specific thing spectacularly (this isn't a diss, I own a few)...but they've still been used eventually to great result.
By Deta!L Thu May 14, 2009 2:22 am
The Machinist wrote:
FredFrank wrote:See above.

the MPC line themselves are actually very basic machines themselves that don't do any specific thing spectacularly


except sequencing? I believe the MPC 60 and 3K are the benchmark of sequencing in any genre of electronic based music..and they do it spectacularly :wink:
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By The Machinist Thu May 14, 2009 4:16 am
The Machinist wrote:In the grand perspective, the MPC line themselves are actually very basic machines themselves that don't do any specific thing spectacularly (this isn't a diss, I own a few)...but they've still been used eventually to great result.


Meaning, for people outside of those genres, or even some within them, the MPC is not a major part of their setup...and usually isn't the best at any given task. In the realm of certain genres I believe that yours is a very valid opinion, especially in Hip Hop or such. To some the MPC units are a centerpiece, to others it's just an expendable subordinate tool. Both are valid uses.