Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By savilion Fri May 15, 2009 11:02 pm
This is to urge all people who are NOT satisfied with the way simult currently works in os2xl to use the bug report form on jjs website and let jj know you would like to see simult return to the way it use to work in os1 and os2.

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/bug/report.htm <---- report your problem with simult here

The way simult worked in os1 and os2 was key to grid editing as well as adding extra layers after you have sequenced. In os1 and 2 you would be able to link pads together, but when you would sequence ..the sequencer would only register 1 pad in the grid making it easy to shift notes with out having to worry about shifting multiple layers.

When sequencing with os2xl every layer is registered in the sequencer . With this happening it makes it very difficult to move layers because as I mentioned earlier there will be up to 4 layers to move, As well you can not add additional layers after you have sequenced because layers are triggered by their individual notes inputted in the sequencer not by one pad that triggers the rest of your layers

this post was edited and made a sticky because there is many people who work with out a computer or would not like to disrupt there work flow but would like to fully benefit from the amazing features that os2xl has to offer

I hope this clears things up ,

if I need to add or change anything let me know

Savilion
Last edited by savilion on Sat May 23, 2009 4:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Coz Fri May 15, 2009 11:05 pm
If he adds the numeric and main key customise (along with what you mentioned) i'll be switching to os2. Until then i'll be sticking with XL...
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By LunaticBastard Sat May 16, 2009 7:28 am
really? having 2 assignable buttons is enough to give up real features for? chord is a waste because i can just play the chords. quant strength is worthless when you dont use the quant feature. so what else does xl have that makes it worth $5 let alone $15? im just not a big fan of the "i gotta upgrade just so i have the newest shit" approach. and for the record. you will never see those features into os2. he has already moved on.
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By Coz Sat May 16, 2009 9:03 am
LunaticBastard wrote:really? having 2 assignable buttons is enough to give up real features for? chord is a waste because i can just play the chords. quant strength is worthless when you dont use the quant feature. so what else does xl have that makes it worth $5 let alone $15? im just not a big fan of the "i gotta upgrade just so i have the newest shit" approach. and for the record. you will never see those features into os2. he has already moved on.


On the 2500 you have 11 assignable buttons which is very useful and time saving. Quantize strength is also absolutely essential to me now having used it since I bought XL. There's no way I would want to go back to simply quantize 'on or off'.

I bought XL from the off so i've not 'upgraded' through the os's, but with any luck he has moved on from os2 so he can look after XL exclusively. If JJ gave users back simult and better qlinks a lot of people would switch from os2. Fingers crossed...
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By savilion Mon May 18, 2009 10:04 pm
Well who is in charge of keeping jj up to date ? nym? I dont think either jj or nym is concerned with simult....maybe someone else needs to get at jj or who ever...

or maybe its on its way but I donno


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By dtaa pla muk Mon May 18, 2009 10:57 pm
Quantize strength is also absolutely essential to me now having used it since I bought XL. There's no way I would want to go back to simply quantize 'on or off'.


this = teh trooth

jj knows about the simult situation
jj also knows about the world market situation

send your mpc drum midi channel to battery son
use the mpc for chopped breaks and battery for layers, that combination is unstoppable
By master-ceo Tue May 19, 2009 6:18 am
Is their an XL Manual in PDF format yet?
By tresperros Tue May 19, 2009 10:16 am
Nym wrote:
Quantize strength is also absolutely essential to me now having used it since I bought XL. There's no way I would want to go back to simply quantize 'on or off'.


this = teh trooth

jj knows about the simult situation
jj also knows about the world market situation

send your mpc drum midi channel to battery son
use the mpc for chopped breaks and battery for layers, that combination is unstoppable



sorry mate but this is a lame answer
if I want to use a computer I don't want to spend another $$$$ for an MPC
what I really like about MPC is that it keeps me away from PC
I was making music exclusively on PC
you can listen it here :www.myspcae.com/tresperros
I wasn't enjoing it...
Now we got new OS who honestly.... well people aren't happy about it...
but like I said a long time ago about this new OS, it's forced by a little group of mpc bigmouth users, for their convienance
f@@@ democracy, it doesn't work...

getting to point,
I can do on a PC things you will explore in next 5-6 years, but I don't want to switch my PC until my song is almost done and I want to print it
I use PC as a recording machine

answers like this kicks me out of this forum..



my 2 pennies
By dtaa pla muk Tue May 19, 2009 2:18 pm
legitimate answers that you don't like kick you out of the forums?

g'bye. take your pacifier with you. it's not my job to make you happy
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By savilion Tue May 19, 2009 7:04 pm
Nym wrote:
Quantize strength is also absolutely essential to me now having used it since I bought XL. There's no way I would want to go back to simply quantize 'on or off'.


this = teh trooth

jj knows about the simult situation
jj also knows about the world market situation

send your mpc drum midi channel to battery son
use the mpc for chopped breaks and battery for layers, that combination is unstoppable


well ...I could use battery and complicate my process even more ....but I liked how it was in the first place .... I knew the answer would be USE BATTERY blah blah .... I used battery when Akai had NO SIMULT on the 2500 I think we both had our discussions about this feature ....but when jj implemented simult I said f*iduck battery or using my computer for shit I could do on my mpc ...and dont call me son i was using Battery when you were asking what it was right here in this forum ....so f*uck battery f*uck the world market situation I just want simple things implemented back into the mpc which were implemented in mpcs in the 90's.. to make my work flow much more enjoyable ...if you wanna bring the world market and politics into a discussion about simult then i give up....but I know there is more people then just me who is concerned about this feature...not everyone wants to work like you do ....Been there, done that .
By master-ceo Tue May 19, 2009 7:08 pm
kazakore wrote:
master-ceo wrote:Is their an XL Manual in PDF format yet?


Somebody has put together the pages from the website in one (linked in the Manual sticky.)

http://www.hollowearth.org/dl/JJOS_XL.pdf.zip



Thanks Bro. I need some damn Glasses. :lol:
By dtaa pla muk Tue May 19, 2009 7:13 pm
christ, savillion, go easy, i guess i didn't get the memo saying that "son" has been removed from the dictionary of friendly colloquialisms

and the economy has a lot to do with this whether you like it or not...
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By savilion Tue May 19, 2009 7:58 pm
naw its all good... I respect you and what you do .... its just the on this one I need the messenger to be a bit louder to jj ......and I m not sure if its happening .....as you can see the only time I post in this forum is when simult gets disrupted taken out or completely forgot about ..and I would like to see it implemented properly ....I mean I know jj has other sh*t to work on ..but usually in a bad economic time I would think the best thing to do is stand by your product...listen to what your customers want ....that way word of mouth sells the previous products jj currently has to offer. I guess good old fashion business of the customer is always right don't work in a recession ......
By dtaa pla muk Tue May 19, 2009 11:01 pm
i hear you loud and clear

jj knows full well that folks wish simult was there. when i found out that simult was different the way it currently is i was really really bummed and extremely worried, and communicated this. i've done so later on, as well, due to the interests of others in this forum even when my own uses shifted away from simult (likely never to return), and i'll do so again in my next bug report (copying ALL PAD in DRUM tracks is inconsistent with copying in MIDI grid edit, also extra space is copied and pasted)

i haven't spoken with murai or jj in at least a month, actually. time to check in and bring a couple bugs to the butcher shop