Playing a sample on MIDI keyboard

Is there an easy way to record a sample live and then play it at various pitches using a MIDI keyboard? So far the only way I have found to do this is making a separate sample for each pitch, and assigning each pitched sample to it's own unique key on the keyboard. Is there no other way to do this? Is this something the mpc 1000 can do and the 500 can not?

there should be a 12 level button for your mpc somewhere since you have the 500 and there being only 12 pads you should be able to line it out with a different pitch for every pad with this button

With JJOS u have chromatic assign.
Mp's are not 'real' samplers, u can't assign keygroups.
I had a 'instrument program' in my mpc 500. It was nothing more but a template with the correct note assignment and different pitches I made.
I still had to assign each sample to each pad, but it saved me few minutes.

"Mp's are not 'real' samplers"


What are they then?

Malignant-Aura wrote:"Mp's are not 'real' samplers"


What are they then?

I also 'lolled' at that.

I didn't know that a sampler had to have keygroup mapping to be considered a 'real' sampler!

Har har har.

logic_user99 wrote:

Malignant-Aura wrote:"Mp's are not 'real' samplers"


What are they then?

I also 'lolled' at that.

I didn't know that a sampler had to have keygroup mapping to be considered a 'real' sampler!

Har har har.

Word, I guess someone forgot the principle of why Roger Linn even made the MPC to begin with.

Malignant-Aura wrote:

logic_user99 wrote:

Malignant-Aura wrote:"Mp's are not 'real' samplers"


What are they then?

I also 'lolled' at that.

I didn't know that a sampler had to have keygroup mapping to be considered a 'real' sampler!

Har har har.

Word, I guess someone forgot the principle of why Roger Linn even made the MPC to begin with.

Exactly! Record noise + hit pad = music love.

^^

Oh wait WHERES THE KEYGROUPS? THIS AINT A 'REAL' SAMPLER!


These guys kill me. Just take something and make something. That is what a sampler does, and that is what one's mind behind the MPC is supposed to do I wonder if he's tried soaking his MPC in a tub of water to substitute for his missing keygroups

With a real sampler I meant that they designed the sampler to emulate instruments. And that's what they'r still used for. Not for chopping up beats. That's what dj's made it to do. The first mpc's where percussion samplers. And what we have now (newgen mpc's) is a workstation with a phrase sampler.

Yes the mpc is a sampler, but through the years we changed the concept of the original sampler. The newgen mpc's have phrase sample edit functions, rack samplers have more features to build instrument programs. If u aren't aware of that then let me enlight you:

"A sampler is an electronic musical instrument closely related to a synthesizer. Instead of generating sounds from scratch, however, a sampler starts with multiple recordings (or "samples") of different sounds added by the user, and then plays each back based on how the instrument is configured. Because these samples are usually stored in RAM, the information can be quickly accessed.
Usually a sampler is controlled from an attached music keyboard, or from an external MIDI source. Each note value input into the sampler then accesses a particular sample. Often, multiple samples are arranged across the musical range, and assigned to a group of notes. If keyboard tracking is enabled, then the sample is shifted in pitch by an appropriate amount. Each group of notes to which a single sample has been assigned is often called a keyzone, and the resultant set of zones is called a keymap. When a note value is input to the sampler, it looks at the value, and plays back the sample associated with that note. "

So know ur ****' facts before u start clownin people ****

Let me simplify it for you:

Instrument samplers-> what they were designed for in the first place, to emulate instruments
Phrase samplers-> That's how the company's started building their sampler after they found out all the hiphop producers started to use a sampler like that.

So it is a real sampler? Just a newer breed? ... Dose things a lil diff so we'll just say it ain't real

maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'real' cuz that makes this whole thing confusing.

Menco wrote:With JJOS u have chromatic assign.
Mp's are not TRADITIONAL samplers, u can't assign keygroups.
I had a 'instrument program' in my mpc 500. It was nothing more but a template with the correct note assignment and different pitches I made.
I still had to assign each sample to each pad, but it saved me few minutes.

That's what I meant with the word real. That shouldn't be that hard to understand?

Menco wrote::roll:

maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'real' cuz that makes this whole thing confusing.

Menco wrote:With JJOS u have chromatic assign.
Mp's are not TRADITIONAL samplers, u can't assign keygroups.
I had a 'instrument program' in my mpc 500. It was nothing more but a template with the correct note assignment and different pitches I made.
I still had to assign each sample to each pad, but it saved me few minutes.

That's what I meant with the word real. That shouldn't be that hard to understand?

Ahhh you meant to say "Mp's are not TRADITIONAL samplers" sorry that was confusing...I totally get what you was trying to say now.

Menco wrote:With a real sampler I meant that they designed the sampler to emulate instruments. And that's what they'r still used for. Not for chopping up beats. That's what dj's made it to do. The first mpc's where percussion samplers. And what we have now (newgen mpc's) is a workstation with a phrase sampler.

Yes the mpc is a sampler, but through the years we changed the concept of the original sampler. The newgen mpc's have phrase sample edit functions, rack samplers have more features to build instrument programs. If u aren't aware of that then let me enlight you:

"A sampler is an electronic musical instrument closely related to a synthesizer. Instead of generating sounds from scratch, however, a sampler starts with multiple recordings (or "samples") of different sounds added by the user, and then plays each back based on how the instrument is configured. Because these samples are usually stored in RAM, the information can be quickly accessed.
Usually a sampler is controlled from an attached music keyboard, or from an external MIDI source. Each note value input into the sampler then accesses a particular sample. Often, multiple samples are arranged across the musical range, and assigned to a group of notes. If keyboard tracking is enabled, then the sample is shifted in pitch by an appropriate amount. Each group of notes to which a single sample has been assigned is often called a keyzone, and the resultant set of zones is called a keymap. When a note value is input to the sampler, it looks at the value, and plays back the sample associated with that note. "

So know ur ****' facts before u start clownin people ****

Let me simplify it for you:

Instrument samplers-> what they were designed for in the first place, to emulate instruments
Phrase samplers-> That's how the company's started building their sampler after they found out all the hiphop producers started to use a sampler like that.

I think I'm trying to do the same thing right now.

I've got a bunch of keyboard baseline samples on my CF, I thought I would be able to load one up and then trigger it with a keyboard via midi and be able to spread one sound across the keys. But what I'm getting instead is the one mpc sound assigned to one keyboard key. And the 12 levels button doesn't spread across the keys either.

Does anybody know where I can get a free program or kit that would assign a sound properly across a few octaves for a keyboard midi connection?

I guess similar to the "instrument program" that menco mentioned in post 3, with or with out sounds?

yeah i figured the levels didnt work just gotta spend that time configuring the sample in different tones all throughout the banks and assigning them to a key on the board and save that make yourself that template or there should be some somewhere on here