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By oli83 Thu May 28, 2009 4:20 am
Just want to vent a little because I made a good beat. I got an MPC1000, and I'm in love. I'm a total newbie, but through about 2 months of owning a MPC, I can't get enough. Digging through records, and pulling samples is too much fun. Looping and chopping samples can't get much better!

Beyond my venting, is there a DAW program that someone would recommend for a newcomer. I know that it's about preference, but I'm too new in the game to know one from the other.... Looking at possibly Ableton LE. It's about a $150, and it looks to be a very basic system. Does anyone having any suggestions? Is it worth my money to dish out $500 up front for a DAW like Reason, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, etc.
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By mr_debauch Thu May 28, 2009 4:28 am
oli83 wrote:Just want to vent a little because I made a good beat. I got an MPC1000, and I'm in love. I'm a total newbie, but through about 2 months of owning a MPC, I can't get enough. Digging through records, and pulling samples is too much fun. Looping and chopping samples can't get much better!

Beyond my venting, is there a DAW program that someone would recommend for a newcomer. I know that it's about preference, but I'm too new in the game to know one from the other.... Looking at possibly Ableton LE. It's about a $150, and it looks to be a very basic system. Does anyone having any suggestions? Is it worth my money to dish out $500 up front for a DAW like Reason, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, etc.


well it depends on what type of DAW you want. It depends on what you need it for.

If you want to record your tracks from the MPC onto the computer then dont bother with reason because it doesn't record.


You know what?

The best possible thing you could do is download audacity or even reaper.

go to google and look up either of those programs. they both record, they are both very good programs, and they are both legally free to download... you dont have to pay for them and they come right from the website of the company who made them. also they are both very small programs.


i suggest audacity since you are new, it does almost every basic thing an expensive DAW does and it does those things very well.. it even works great for cleaning up old vinyl audio quality.

try the free ones while you research what type of DAW you might want in the future.
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By mr_debauch Thu May 28, 2009 5:47 am
Marc The Drummer wrote:Try Reaper. It'a a great DAW.

http://www.reaper.fm/



+1

and they give it away for free... I think you can donate to the company if you love the program... but they dont charge for it... not exactly sure how it works.
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By konc3pt Thu May 28, 2009 1:41 pm
Reaper is not free, however for the price it cannot be matched.
By kazakore Thu May 28, 2009 2:26 pm
Personally I HATE the user interface for Audacity. Reaper looks good but I've hardly touched it yet. Definitely worth a look though.


mr_debauch wrote:
Marc The Drummer wrote:Try Reaper. It'a a great DAW.

http://www.reaper.fm/



+1

and they give it away for free... I think you can donate to the company if you love the program... but they dont charge for it... not exactly sure how it works.


Reaper isn't free. The demo is fully functional so you can use it with no restrictions whatsoever for free but if you find you use it and would buy it a non-commercial licence is $60, if you use it for music with is released commercial or sold otherwise you should pay a licence of $225. I really hope people are doing this as it's a budget program written by people who love what they are doing and they do rely on people's honesty to get any money.
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By mr_debauch Thu May 28, 2009 5:32 pm
kazakore wrote:Personally I HATE the user interface for Audacity. Reaper looks good but I've hardly touched it yet. Definitely worth a look though.


mr_debauch wrote:
Marc The Drummer wrote:Try Reaper. It'a a great DAW.

http://www.reaper.fm/



+1

and they give it away for free... I think you can donate to the company if you love the program... but they dont charge for it... not exactly sure how it works.


Reaper isn't free. The demo is fully functional so you can use it with no restrictions whatsoever for free but if you find you use it and would buy it a non-commercial licence is $60, if you use it for music with is released commercial or sold otherwise you should pay a licence of $225. I really hope people are doing this as it's a budget program written by people who love what they are doing and they do rely on people's honesty to get any money.



ahh okok, I knew there was somehow money involved with the but it wasn't a requirement for legally obtaining the program. It's like a pay later type of thing... anyways, It would be good for this guy to get something like that before considering spending a few hundred on one of the other DAW's considering he never tried any of them yet.
By kazakore Thu May 28, 2009 8:39 pm
I would strongly suggest you give Renoise a little try as well. If you like the MPC style with step sequencing and the like you may also like Trackers, although they scrolls down not across and can look a bit like a spreadsheet/programming language until you are used to them. Again quite a budget program at 50Euro (demo has no ASIO or render to Wav.) Personally it's my favourite DAW, but I understand why it's not the one for most people, and it's not what I would suggest for laying off tracks from an MPC to do your final mix-down. Reaper is far more designed for that type of work.

http://www.renoise.com
By oli83 Fri May 29, 2009 4:22 am
Man, I took everyone's advise to look into reaper. I browsed their website and downloaded the user guide. I'm bummed because they don't have a Mac OSx version out, and I have 2 Macs. Shitty.
By beach_break Fri May 29, 2009 4:34 am
have a look at logic express. rock solid on a mac, and cheaper than the full version. i like it a lot. it has all the features and more for what i want.
By INTPDR Fri May 29, 2009 9:31 am
if your going to use samples you should def get ableton. kicks fruity loops ass. the work flow is incredible you dont even have to stop playing your sequence as you tweak your beat, copy and past and so on. you can also cut and assign samples to pads WAY faster than a mpc. just cut and drag litteraly with as many effects as you want for each pad.
By kazakore Fri May 29, 2009 11:17 am
oli83 wrote:Man, I took everyone's advise to look into reaper. I browsed their website and downloaded the user guide. I'm bummed because they don't have a Mac OSx version out, and I have 2 Macs. ****.


What you on about?


http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

Download:

* Windows (4.4MB installer)
* Windows x64 (4.7MB installer)
* OS X Intel (7.2MB DMG)
* OS X PPC (5.3MB DMG)



...


OS Requirements:

Windows (32-bit): Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista/7 or WINE (limited support for W98/ME).
Windows (64-bit): Windows XP/Vista/7 x64 (requires x64 compatible drivers and plug-ins).
OS X: 10.4 or 10.5, PPC or Intel (Intel recommended).
By oli83 Fri May 29, 2009 3:05 pm
I was taking a look at the OS message boards for reaper. This is one of the first posts I saw:

"Even though Reaper OSX keeps following the Windows numbering, it's more than clear that the OSX version is way behind the Windows version.

It looks like an Alpha version to me, too many things looking carelessly thrown together, UI glitches all over the place, no media browser, many AU plugins still make it crash like no tomorrow etc etc "

Now this is only 1 guy, but the theme seemed pretty consistant. Not sure if I want to jump in just yet. That's all I'm saying.