Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By MessyBeatz Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:52 pm
Whats up peeps.

1st of all thanx for chekin this out.

Now im new to diggin and all so i need a lil advice from the experienced ones here.
(or in fact anybody)

there is this dude that lives a few houses down from me selling his vinyl. he is asking for 75p per vinyl, things is i dont know much about what to look out for so wondering if you'd help.

this list is provided below.

would be grateful if any1 can spot any good ones in there to let me know.

thanx again peeps.

(i'll be sure to put some samples up once i grab these records)

Peace.

http://www.zshare.net/download/6115889119a852a3/
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By MessyBeatz Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:03 pm
Manilla wrote:there some nice joints in there. 75p per record? wheres this geezer live?


:lol: :lol:

UK south london m8.

so are you not gonna share da knowledge on what you think is nice in there?
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By eastcoast121 Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:21 am
cmon man! you cant ask people to dig for you son. but a lot of those joints are good records. ill give you some of my *personal* tips

1. i usually dont buy stuff from 60's or 80's. usually i just buy 70's stuff.

2. look for instruments used on the album. horns, strings, flute, all that stuff is good.

3. look for player names (you cant really do this yet because you just started but if you find something good take notes of the players names, especially in jazz because alot of those cats played on multiple records.

4. this one will help you a lot. look for record labels. anything on CTI (i think most of those bob james joints are on CTI hint hint) thats the only one ill give you for now, just if you find somethin good take note of the label its on and itll help you make decisions in the future most of the time. (stuff like columbia put out a lot of stuff in a lot of genres tho so labels like that are hard to tell)

man just look, a lot of the dudes records are nice. look for stuff with people rockin afros on the cover. or stuff with trippy artwork.

also pick up that steve miller band fly like an eagle joint. theres a nice drum break on there. theres more records he has with breaks on them but i cant give them all up. just dig and dig and youll get better. btw i wish i had that list of records to choose from! got a lot of stuff im still on the hunt for!
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By eastcoast121 Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:24 am
forgot! also youtube! that site has helped me SOOO many times. look up DJ Souliva or DJ Kool Breez. they have tons of videos with records on them so i learned a lot from there (wat i learned for example was like i would see a record that they played with a hot joint on it but i know i woulda never picked it up myself because of the artwork or what have you..so now i know to look out for it u kno) just keep diggin son you'll get bettttttter.
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By MessyBeatz Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:26 am
eastcoast121 wrote:cmon man! you cant ask people to dig for you son. but a lot of those joints are good records. ill give you some of my *personal* tips

1. i usually dont buy stuff from 60's or 80's. usually i just buy 70's stuff.

2. look for instruments used on the album. horns, strings, flute, all that stuff is good.

3. look for player names (you cant really do this yet because you just started but if you find something good take notes of the players names, especially in jazz because alot of those cats played on multiple records.

4. this one will help you a lot. look for record labels. anything on CTI (i think most of those bob james joints are on CTI hint hint) thats the only one ill give you for now, just if you find somethin good take note of the label its on and itll help you make decisions in the future most of the time. (stuff like columbia put out a lot of stuff in a lot of genres tho so labels like that are hard to tell)

man just look, a lot of the dudes records are nice. look for stuff with people rockin afros on the cover. or stuff with trippy artwork.

also pick up that steve miller band fly like an eagle joint. theres a nice drum break on there. theres more records he has with breaks on them but i cant give them all up. just dig and dig and youll get better. btw i wish i had that list of records to choose from! got a lot of stuff im still on the hunt for!



thanx for that East... thats all i wanted was a few pointers. nuff respect.


i know you hardly know me fam but if there is anything you want from that PM me.

if you can trust me cus i'll send dem joints to you no probs.

a bit random i kno but hey.

thanx again.
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By J2kxl Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:19 am
Man theres a bunch of stuff I would go for there.

Some obvious ones for me would be..

Billy cobham

Bob james

Bobby caldwell

Chick corea

Deddato

Herbie hancock

Herbie man

Isley brothers

Jaco pastorius

Kool & the gang

Stanley clarke

War and thats just for starters
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By J2kxl Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:20 am
Damn I'm jealous You wanna send me some stuff too?
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By MessyBeatz Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:34 pm
J2kxl wrote:Damn I'm jealous You wanna send me some stuff too?


thanx for your advice them man.

i am happy to send shit to peeps or upload samples from the records that you may be after. for example a particular album or track i will upload it for ya to use.

either way im cool wid.

thanx again for that lil list. if you think of anymore im all ears fam.

im new to diggin but im sure i'll get the hang of it.
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By MessyBeatz Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:24 pm
thanx guys for da advice.

does anybody else wanna help me wid this list.

like i said im new to diggin and im not takin the pi55 asking you guys to dig for me im just asking for a lil point in the right direction.

i have until saturday night to grab what i want as the rest is going to a car boot sale.

thanx in advance for reading this a helping.

peace
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By dj e.d.e Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:02 am
dont limit your creativity to one decade,open your mind to many types and yrs of music .... theres so much music out there,

research this forum theres aot of good info on here trust that
By mikael__ Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:38 pm
When digging through records with artist i don't know i go for the covers. From time to time a record with a cool cover will be total shit, but it's pretty rare for a record to have an ugly cover and be really good.

So go for covers you find interesting, pile them up. The flip them over, check:
who's playing?
who produced?
what's the instrument setting?
what year was it released ?
what genre does it seem to be?
How long are the tracks? jazz/funk/disco etc. tend to have long tracks like 7minutes and up, pop stuff usually alot shorter.
What are the titles ? Are we talking titles like "Gimmie that funk" or "missing you baby"

If you find a record, slightly psychadelic cover, produced 77, 3-4 track each 9minutes and up. This guy on electric bass, that guy on clavinett, that other guy on minimoog. Titles are something like "outerspace groove". Well, then you know it's going to be awsome record.

Good luck man :)
By StaticAutobot Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:49 pm
-el chicano

-herbie man

-hot chocolate ( both )

-grease soundtrack ( theres 1 sick drum break in the intro song )

( DONT EVER TOUCH JJ CALE! )

-little feat

-personaly id grab that orchestral maneuvors in the dark it sounds differant

- and then the obviouse ones ie. marvin gaye

another thing is back in the day when there wasnt such HUGE record companys , minor labels would try and stick to one type of sound and style ( like underground music today ), so search for labels from artists youve heard befor and have used, just a few pointers that have helped me out.
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By MessyBeatz Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:24 pm
nuff nuff respect to every1 who took da time to give a lil advice.

much appreciated.

if there is any particular track you guys are after from any of these records then gimme a shout and i'll be sure to upload da shit.

thanx again all