Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By djestouff Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:56 pm
So obviously hip hop and most popular music is in 4/4 time signature, but some people are starting to look beyond this boundary. Anyone make any, or know of any beats that are in anything besides 4/4?
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:30 pm
Dave Brubeck was very well knows for his music that always used different and complex time signitures..through out his career he experimented with many different types.
For example his most famous piece was in 5/4 time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2In5a9LDNg check out the drum solo I love it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Brubeck
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By peterpiper Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:48 pm
raised hand wrote:i made a song in 3/4.
it's on my myspace, track called what we really want

http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanbleuminds

the sample demanded the time sig


hmmmm Im not very familar counting time signatures but to me it sounds more like 9/8

hey flower power has an "unusual" time sig to 6/4

Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago about that topic. I remember someone said something about Frank Zappas crazy time signatures. And Genesis had some unusual stuff too.


peace
By djestouff Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:36 pm
peterpiper wrote:
raised hand wrote:i made a song in 3/4.
it's on my myspace, track called what we really want

http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanbleuminds

the sample demanded the time sig


hmmmm Im not very familar counting time signatures but to me it sounds more like 9/8

hey flower power has an "unusual" time sig to 6/4

Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago about that topic. I remember someone said something about Frank Zappas crazy time signatures. And Genesis had some unusual stuff too.


peace


ah, i'll have to look for that thread. I'm not just interested in music with strange time sigs, but specifically beats.
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By Doglamp Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:42 am
Toldya dude :wink:
Music is an art form whose medium is sound organized in time.

The more complex the pattern, the harder it is to understand the music. :) That's why if people don't understand or can't comprehend your song, they call it shit.
djestouff wrote:I'm not just interested in music with strange time sigs, but specifically beats.

You should actually listen to other music with different time sigs, to draw ideas from ya know?

And, technically Jazz pieces are beats. :) They have drums, and different time sigs. Listen to those.

It's kinda weird, I feel like we have 4/4 embedded in our brains. Trying to understand anything besides 4/4 feels like writing with my left hand.
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By DSTRUCT Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:22 pm
I've done a few beats in 3/4, but i never felt right spittin on em. This was a few years ago though, and i think i could pull it off now. Not just pull it off, but make it actually hot.


and yeah, that Dave Brubeck song is the shit!!!!


vinyl_junkie_1620------

your right about that drum break, dude kills it. Makes me wanna jump behind a kit and jam out. Wish i still had a drum kit.
By Ministry of Undos Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:38 pm
If we're talking 5/4 then it's all about the theme from Halloween. I have fond memories of trying to play March of the Pigs by NIN in Rock Band, too, that didn't work out too well since it switches sigs on you.
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By four eyes Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:54 am
djestouff wrote:
Doglamp wrote:It's kinda weird, I feel like we have 4/4 embedded in our brains. Trying to understand anything besides 4/4 feels like writing with my left hand.


i definitely feel the same way :?


totally

i have a hard time figuring out the sig for some jazz, classical, or movie scores sometimes.
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By Fatt Laced Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:45 am
i'm sure most ppl are down with removing every note before the snare from a sample with triplet timing to create a 4/4 rhythm?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDBFzDnIRM
^^best example i could think of

i do this so much it's not funny, this is one of my favorite methods of sequencing samples!
then swapping notes for ones that work better, rinse repeat..
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By Ibunshi Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:59 am
dstruction wrote:I've done a few beats in 3/4, but i never felt right spittin on em. This was a few years ago though, and i think i could pull it off now. Not just pull it off, but make it actually hot.


you might be able to just go 4/4 over a 3/4 beat tho, well depends on the actual rhythm of those drums.. but many times, 5/4, 3/4, 7/4 etc etc goes pretty well with 4/4.. can create some really nice grooves that way..

and 5/4 bass to a 4/4 drumbeat or vice versa can be awesome.. creates a different groove each time it loops (well 5 variations because of the 5/4) .. but, can be hard to get it good, because not only must it sound good the first time it loops, but the next 4 times will depend on where you have placed those hits.. so it can end up sounding shit, but is sweet when you pull it off
By chris89 Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:38 pm
Jay-Z, The Black Album "My 1st Song" is in 6/8
Hip-hop is mostly 4/4 or 6/8

and at least for me, I make beats for MCs and if you make an 11/16 or 7/4 beat, no one will want to spit over that.
By raised hand Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:44 pm
peterpiper wrote:
raised hand wrote:i made a song in 3/4.
it's on my myspace, track called what we really want

http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanbleuminds



hmmmm Im not very familar counting time signatures but to me it sounds more like 9/8

hey flower power has an "unusual" time sig to 6/4


yea, you're probably right, what we really want track is 6/8 or 9/8, or something like that. flower power is definitely 3/4 and has a rap. the rap definitely had a different feel because of the time sig.