FL Studio

I never knew that one, thanks.

mr_debauch wrote:

Nobody PhaimUs wrote:not even 9th wonder can give a true choped up feel , so uh no . I can hear the difference.

well I dont know about 9th wonder and which beats he made on what... but you can get a chopped up feel in fl no problem... and what difference can you hear? the sound isn't chopped enough? what does that even mean? you get a cut in the sample where you put a cut in the sample. the wave traveller chopping is pretty much identical to chopping on the XL...

it all depends on the methods you use.

more bumping? well i think that depends more on the sample you use rather then the program you are running...

I use FL studio , i like it . I use it , i learned how to make beats on it. I will never hate on fl studio. But you can tell when its a fl beat . And that's not a bad thing , but there different TOOLS , each TOOL has its own nuisance's that cant be recreated. Tracking out Analog into the box(protools) gives you a more full sound period. Its the same when using the digital outs , its not the same sound.

I dont think there is any difference in sound between fruity loops and the mpc, go on youtube and type in kelakovski. Every beat sounds great and thats just with fruity loops

BAILEY NED wrote:I dont think there is any difference in sound between fruity loops and the mpc, go on youtube and type in kelakovski. Every beat sounds great and thats just with fruity loops

What your not understanding is , I think the FL studio sound is great. Im not knocking it , BUT there different. I think anyone with a half decent ear can hear it. BUT AGAIN thats not a bad thing !


*How could you use a youtube stream as reference ? Mp3 as a whole is pretty shitty quality.

I'm not sure what you mean by sound. The quality or the drum programming / patterns?

Doglamp wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by sound. The quality or the drum programming / patterns?

well I think i have a clue to what he means... for example, if you are making melodies (let's say a piano melody) and you use one piano note sample with the piano roll... it sounds mechanical and fake. stuff like that. if you can get a seperate sample for each key, that is the best... or you could use things like kontakt.

mr_debauch wrote:

Doglamp wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by sound. The quality or the drum programming / patterns?

well I think i have a clue to what he means... for example, if you are making melodies (let's say a piano melody) and you use one piano note sample with the piano roll... it sounds mechanical and fake. stuff like that. if you can get a seperate sample for each key, that is the best... or you could use things like kontakt.

Yes, but the same rings true for any sampler especially the older hardware ones...

kneebone77 wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

Doglamp wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by sound. The quality or the drum programming / patterns?

well I think i have a clue to what he means... for example, if you are making melodies (let's say a piano melody) and you use one piano note sample with the piano roll... it sounds mechanical and fake. stuff like that. if you can get a seperate sample for each key, that is the best... or you could use things like kontakt.

Yes, but the same rings true for any sampler especially the older hardware ones...

very true... that is what is confusing me.

I guess you can tell the sound if you use stock stuff... the drums, the fruity pluggins that come with the program..... or stuff like that. I mean it's bad when some of the drum loops I made I cant remember if I did it on the mpc or on the computer.

Tips:

I tried FL on this laptop with a 1.86Ghz dual Pentium. I had no sound card or interface, so I had to resort using ASIO4ALL drivers (not true ASIO drivers). It was SO slow!! You could easily minimize the FL window, but to maximize it, you would have to wait for a minute.

I tried to ReWire FL (slave) to Live (host), and to my surprise it ran smoother.

ReWiring FL Studio gives you 16 stereo outs. So that's a total of 32 mono outs (L + R * 2). For certain sounds like percussion, you don't need to output stereo. So to save those outputs, use the 'panning fully to one direction' technique.

In short:

1. If FL is running slow standalone, try to ReWire FL into Live (or anything else).
2. Pan your drums all the way to the left or right to save outputs.

I haven't tried using it as a VSTi yet.

I have used most of the well-known tools in the industry (Roland MC's, E-30, Yahma's, FL, Reason, Live, Acid, Cubase/Nuendo, Logic, Pro tools, MPC and some other not less important), and I have come to a conclusion: If you are good, your music will sound great with any tool you use. They use the same language (Sometimes with different terminology).
Just need to Get adapted.

kneebone77 wrote:

Nobody PhaimUs wrote:not even 9th wonder can give a true choped up feel , so uh no . I can hear the difference.

I learn to make beats on an MPC 60 first. The first beat machine I ever owned was an EPS. Every time I make a beat on FL people always think it's an MPC or a ASR-10. Why? Because I think like a MPC an ASR. the program is a tool. If the sculpture don't look right you don't blame the chisel...
I love FL. To me the only thing that an MPC has over FL is the immediacy in which you will get the desired results.
But if you cant get the desired results with FL, then you simply don't know what your doing...

Mmmmmm...well put. I think Im gonna jack that one line and put it on my Avatar! No Disrespect KneeBone!

Tip:

When using FL Studio as a plugin, use VSTi instead of ReWire! The advantages of using VSTi over ReWire:

Ability to use shortcuts
Changes made in FL will save to the host's file

"Changes made in FL will save to the host's file" What this means is you could make presets in your host software, that load up your favorite settings in FL Studio right away.

That'sa good one right there.

40Beatz wrote:

kneebone77 wrote:

Nobody PhaimUs wrote:not even 9th wonder can give a true choped up feel , so uh no . I can hear the difference.

I learn to make beats on an MPC 60 first. The first beat machine I ever owned was an EPS. Every time I make a beat on FL people always think it's an MPC or a ASR-10. Why? Because I think like a MPC an ASR. the program is a tool. If the sculpture don't look right you don't blame the chisel...
I love FL. To me the only thing that an MPC has over FL is the immediacy in which you will get the desired results.
But if you cant get the desired results with FL, then you simply don't know what your doing...

Mmmmmm...well put. I think Im gonna jack that one line and put it on my Avatar! No Disrespect KneeBone!

None Takin.

As a long time user of hardware, I've also messed around with FL Studio every once in a while since version 3 and made quite a few beats on it. It's a very powerful program. However, I now only use it for experimentation and processing of drum samples. I might use it to make a test beat on it just to see how my newly processed drums sound in a beat before putting the drums on my MPC. Sometimes I came up with some pretty hot stuff by accident just by messing around with samples and flipping them or using some external synth VSTi plugin and tweaking it to come up with a tight preset!!! Since I've been using hardware every since I first started making beats, I feel the FL sequence is quite boring just a few others here mentioned. I not a big fan of step sequencing, even on my TR-808s. However, no drum can surpass the sound of the 808!!!, but I'll leave that for another topic. With step sequencing, making a beat just takes longer. By playing in realtime, I can get the beat made alot quicker. MPC and note-repeat is my best friend!!!!

So as you can see, I still prefer the MPC hardware for sequencing drums. For sequencing hardware keyboards, synths and sound modules, Cubase/Nuendo is my goto software sequencer and it's dope too!!!!!

On thing I do like about the newer version of FL Studio is the timestretching capabilities and the non-destructive chopping (granulizer or something like that). I was so glad JJ at least implemented non-destructive chopping on the MPC that I just had to get OS2XL!!!! And the JJ MPC implementation is actually better than FL Studio. Now if the MPC had real-time timestretching, that would really be dope. I think the MV8800 already has it. I have yet to even see one of those things in person!!! From the pictures and youtube videos, the MV looks mighty tempting, but I know I don't need it. Hahahahaha.

Actually, the MV kinda remind me of FL Studio from the looks of it. It might even be fun to mess with. But i'll leave that for another topic too.