Effect send to Track not individual pads

Wondering if i can just have the sends 'go to the whole track? Not only the fx's from the individual pads? its kinda of a pain to add compression rev to just have and outline for a demo and having to tweak all the pad sends...

czarmusik wrote:Wondering if i can just have the sends to the whole track? Not the fx's from the individual pads? its kinda a pain to add compression rev to just and outline of demo and having to tweak all the pad sends...

+1

Workaround: you can select all pads with shift and than tweak them all at once.

...that is completely against the basic stucture of of all mpc's...

but the workaround is a good suggestion...

reeloy wrote:...that is completely against the basic stucture of of all mpc's...

but the workaround is a good suggestion...

Well, not having the separate pad sends would also be completely against basic mixing ideas. Normally you will have drums, loops and whatever on normal sample programs (meaning various sounds on various pads) and you want to be able to send those various sounds (pads) to various FXs etc. In cases you want to stear a program as a whole I suggest you use keygroup programs?

reeloy wrote:...that is completely against the basic stucture of of all mpc's...

but the workaround is a good suggestion...

ALL MPCs? Unless I am misunderstanding you here, this is not accurate at all.

Simply put it should just have both options in the track mixer it would be added with out a hitch..no reason for it not to be

czarmusik wrote:Simply put it should just have both options in the track mixer it would be added with out a hitch..no reason for it not to be

So, you have FX1 on pad 1, 2 and 13 and FX2 on pad 3 and 4 in the pad mixer.

Then what? If you would have an FX insert in the track mixer, who wins? You can't have inserts on both mixers at the same time. That would become way to complicated.

I think the most flexible way has been implemented.

scd wrote:

czarmusik wrote:Simply put it should just have both options in the track mixer it would be added with out a hitch..no reason for it not to be

So, you have FX1 on pad 1, 2 and 13 and FX2 on pad 3 and 4 in the pad mixer.

Then what? If you would have an FX insert in the track mixer, who wins? You can't have inserts on both mixers at the same time. That would become way to complicated.

I think the most flexible way has been implemented.

It's clear that It is not a must, but I still think this feature should be implemented.
It does not make any difference to me because, Personally I use each pad/sound in a single track. This means every pad is a different track. This would be just a plus.

Kennedy Ribeiro wrote:Personally I use each pad/sound in a single track. This means every pad is a different track.

Ignore my ignorence but what is the difference with using the pad mixer (as far as the FX sends concern)?

scd wrote:

Kennedy Ribeiro wrote:Personally I use each pad/sound in a single track. This means every pad is a different track.

Ignore my ignorence but what is the difference with using the pad mixer (as far as the FX sends concern)?

i always worked lik ethis with the 4000:
use cubase as sequencer. layer different snares (different pads). all the snares were on track 2. put reverb on track 2 done.

now i am forced to layer more snares on 1 pad (but i dont like that) and put the reverb on the pad. or putting 4 reverbs on 4 pads. more work. i dont like this on the 5k.

why did they change this?

when i have made my drum beat, i have to figuyre out which pads i used for my snares, and then apply fx for all those pads. whats the use of the track mixer now, i dont get this.

huibn wrote:

scd wrote:

Kennedy Ribeiro wrote:Personally I use each pad/sound in a single track. This means every pad is a different track.

Ignore my ignorence but what is the difference with using the pad mixer (as far as the FX sends concern)?

i always worked lik ethis with the 4000:
use cubase as sequencer. layer different snares (different pads). all the snares were on track 2. put reverb on track 2 done.

now i am forced to layer more snares on 1 pad (but i dont like that) and put the reverb on the pad. or putting 4 reverbs on 4 pads. more work. i dont like this on the 5k.

why did they change this?

when i have made my drum beat, i have to figuyre out which pads i used for my snares, and then apply fx for all those pads. whats the use of the track mixer now, i dont get this.

Because the Q-Links allow for direct access of mixer setting so it takes no time to make adjustments or set things up.
The mixer is layed out just like the Q-Links so it's very intuitive.

I like the idea of being able to put FXs on a TRACK and not assign them to a PAD. You may want one sample to play on 2 different tracks (1 w/FX AND 1 without). You could always have 2 instances of the same sample in the program but who wants that? Would be same concept as a real mixing console in my opinion. Real consoles add FXs to "tracks" regardless of what sounds are on that track (send a sound to that track it gets that FX).

RAGTOPROY wrote:I like the idea of being able to put FXs on a TRACK and not assign them to a PAD. You may want one sample to play on 2 different tracks (1 w/FX AND 1 without). You could always have 2 instances of the same sample in the program but who wants that? Would be same concept as a real mixing console in my opinion. Real consoles add FXs to "tracks" regardless of what sounds are on that track (send a sound to that track it gets that FX).

No on a real console you would assign sounds to individual channels and add different effects to individual sounds.
Basically the same reason people track out to their DAW, so you can treat sounds individually not globally.

No, on a console you group several recording tracks to ONE single group track and apply FX to that "grouped" track....not each individual sound (pads) You would NOT run a wire from say each of 12 vocal tracks to 12 of the same reverb units, just stupid lol (and costly). Audio Recording 101. channel=track. If you need something individual you use the direct outs and returns on that particular track to do so. So rather than putting an effect on say pad 3 (a hi hat) I would rather be able to leave my actual hi hat pad dry (no effect, just regular hat sound when I hit that pad) but be able to add the effect to a TRACK that I may want to have the hi hat on. Get it? That way I can have OTHER instances of the same hi hat going to different tracks with none or different levels of the effect. This is why you work many boards left to right like a book, record individual sounds on left, bounce to say 16 group tracks on right, bounce those 16 group tracks down to right even further to the stereo channel left and right. Now you have your 2 track mix. Graduated from Webster University in audio production 2004