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By kneebone77 Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:44 am
Most of the stuff I don't truly regret as I sold them for more than I bought them when it was time to let it go...
But here are a few of the things I could've done without.

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Casio FZ-1r
I actually kinda like this piece but mine needs a disk drive which are almost impossible to replace.

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Kawai K-3m
Was super excited to get this one but when it arrived I wasn't really feeling it. I still want to get an Ensoniq SQ-80 which is based on a similar principle as this synth.

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Roland MC-303
I couldn't get into it's sounds and they were for the most part un-tweakable.

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Roland JV-880
Easy to use, easy to tweak sounds and make your own patches but I still couldn't stand the wav ROM that it came with.
After this one I was forever turned off by Roland Romplers.

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E-mu Proteus 2500
Easy to use, easy to tweak sounds and make your own patches but I hated the wav ROM that it came with. Tried a Mo' Phatt after this and LOVED it.

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Boss SYB-3
It just simply wasn't what I thought it would be. I should have got a real envelope follower like a Mu-Tron or something.

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Akai S-612
My most hated purchase ever! Wanted that 12-bit grit but this thing was a real pain and not very flexible at all.
Last edited by kneebone77 on Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:33 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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By kneebone77 Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:50 am
firework wrote:akai s-950 sub menu after page and menus to sample one damn thing, my emax is twice as fast and sounds twice as fat.


Here here.
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By kneebone77 Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:53 am
djchucknorris wrote:A windows computer...


Throw Linux on-nat-b!tch !!!
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By faze1 Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:05 am
djchucknorris wrote:A windows computer...

AMEN!!!! :lol:
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By happyhour Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:39 am
That Gemini...that's something I'd wanna buy now. haha I love gimmicky stuff like that!

I'm surprised to see the 2496 mentioned a few times. I love this card. I understand people outgrowing it though.

My stupidest purchase, I was in a thrift shop and see this Sansui Audio/Video Processor so I was in need of some sort of "selector" box and this thing had buttons that said Effects and Multi Dimension so I bought it and well I blew 15 bucks I could've spent on vinyl instead. :(
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By b.read Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:14 pm
faze1 wrote:
djchucknorris wrote:A windows computer...

AMEN!!!! :lol:


amen X 2! Boy, are we gettin' churchy in here!
By kvmoore Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:54 am
Regretful purchases huh? Well, I would say this:

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I got it brand new at a store along with the Remote 24. I took a big blow to the wallet on this one and it's my most regretful purchase of all. At the time I bought it, I just couldn't wait to get it. It was a great recording machine which was smooth and stable. However, it was already obsolete when I got it and shortly afterwards, Mackie discontinued it. Harddrives for it were proprietary and had a 32G size limit. Furthermore, there was no BIOS upgrade to support larger IDE drives at the time and the proprietary ones were becoming scarce, not to mention expensive. Furthermore, editing on the MDR was a pain compared to a DAW. I was thinking maybe I should've gotten an HDR24/96 instead. But, they were even more expensive and were also discontinued as well. For the price I paid for this MDR, I could've gotten a nice computer and a MOTU 24/io running Cubase or something. I was fortunate enough to sell the MDR and get at least half of what I paid for it. Considering the fact these machines didn't hold their value after buying them new, I still suffered a big blow to the wallet. Never again will I make this kind of investment without considering long-term usefulness, resell value, possible obsolesence, and thinking twice about it. I now track vocals on a PC running Nuendo. It's a hell of a lot easier than the MDR and I have a treasure chest of editing facilities within the software!!!


And this:

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Actually the K5000s is really a nice synth. I bought it because I wanted something that sounded different and out of the ordinary compared to the typical substractive synth. However, I didn't really research additive synthesis thoroughly enough to realize what I was getting myself into before purchasing it. I bought it only to realize I'd have to spend hours and hours of tedious tweaking just to get a really nice and useful patch out of it, unlike subtractive synthesis. I wanted something that could not only sound different but also something that I could quickly tweak to get a great sound out of it so I can get on with making music and working on an actual track. Since the K5000s just wasn't the synth for me, I ended up selling it as well. Unlike the Mackie MDR, I didn't lose anything by buying the K5000s because it held it's value (I bought it second-hand on ebay) and I was able to get my money back out of it. So, maybe I shouldn't list this as a regretful purchase because I did at least gain some experience with an additive synthesizer which I would not have otherwise gained.

Oh, and this:

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Next to the MDR, this is also one of my most regretful purchases. I bought it new at a store. Although this MIDI controller has a nice set of features, it also has a serious design flaw. The keys just die for no reason. The keyboard worked fine for a little while but then all of a sudden, keys just stopped working all of a sudden a few at a time after only 2 years (it sat around for about a year unused). The worst thing about it is the fact that it wasn't heavily used at all. I've seached reviews and forums to get feedback from other people with Edirol PCR-30s and the same thing happened to theirs. My PCR-30 is pretty much useless and it is still sitting in the corner right now collecting dust. Over $200 now gone in the gutter, which could've otherwise gone on a better quality MIDI controller or just banked. If the PCR-30 wasn't defective, I would still be using it today with my laptop for softsynths. I'll avoid all Edirol products from now on.


Oh yeah, and all music gear that I purchased new at a store because electronic music gear is way-overpriced and it depreciates as fast as a car. I wish I just hit up ebay and bought it all second-hand to save a bundle. That's what I do now. Screw that warranty crap because the warranty is usually only 90 days to a year anyway. If it's been well cared for by the previous owner and he had it for a while, chances are it's a good piece. Over half of the items in my studio were purchased on ebay and I have no regrets at all on those.
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By jackson Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:01 pm
M-Audio Bx5As (non-deluxe). Bought them when I was tired. I next days I took a listen and brought them back to store ti exchange for Yamaha HS50Ms. The difference is HUGE and def worth the money. I wouldn't recommend Bx5As. The sound is squeezed together and it doesn't breathe at all.
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By b.read Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:53 pm
yeah, I remember A/B'ing the m-audio's and the yamahas briefly when I was searching for my monitors...the yamaha's definitely won
By kvmoore Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:20 pm
Dirty J wrote:I bought sum M-Audio monitors last weekend that fuking totally threw me , I could not beleive the bass response was so fuking poor , my cheap ass logitech desktop speakers handled bass much better, since I bought them on the road I cant be assed driving back to the town where I got them and ask for a refund ( actually the store dont do cashback ) , I'm feeling tottally ripped off ahahhaa


Do you mind telling us what M-Audio monitors you have? The reason I asked is because I have a pair of BX8s. However, I haven't really heard a lot of good things about M-Audio monitors in general. I just got them because that's all I could afford and I thought they sounded decent (while at the store, which really doesn't do justice as far as a real test goes). Although I still currently use them today as my main studio monitors for mixing (I also have a couple of little Yamaha MSP3s and a Yamaha sub), I would like to hear more feedback from other people with M-Audio BX8s, both positive and negative. Based on my experience with them, I can say that they do lack bass response and they are a bit too bright so what I do is adjust the tone control (which is basically a one knob eq) on my monitoring station to conpensate. As a result, my mixes come out sounding pretty good. Still though, I wish I could afford some better monitors that truly reveal how the mix is really going to sound on an average system.
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By jonestown massacre Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:40 am
kvmoore wrote:I wish I could afford some better monitors that truly reveal how the mix is really going to sound on an average system.


Why not buy "an average system" and some cd-rw's and see what the mix WILL sound like? You can buy a shitty cd/tape/am/fm system at a pawn shop for $20. I know cats that run out to their car just to listen to a mix through their factory deck for reference.

Oh, and the m-audio bx8's are....okay.