Does anyone else's 1000 occasionally not trigger samples

I doubt that polyphony has any thing to do with it. The 2000Xl also has 32 and that NEVER happens to me.

BUMP

Dunno if any of you ever go checkout the MPC 4000 forum, but they got a new OS coming out adding tons of features & bugfixes.

Akai seems to be much more active towards the 4K than the 1K. Is it cuz they purposely wanna cripple the 1K to get you to upgrade to 4K? or maybe they just don't wanna spend resources on the cheaper product line? or maybe the right people at akai are simply not aware of the situation?

anyways, the beta for the 4k was somehow released, and it seems as though some forum members have direct contact with Akai & the developping team. Someone might want to contact them and have them bring up the issues of the 1k to Akai Japan, afterall I believe all OS programming is done there, so complaining to Akai USA might not really affect things...

Here is a message from a Japanese 4k forum member:

" I`m still having problems with the slice and sequence page my notes aren`t lining up correctly like before. i wrote to Akai and talked to Mr Nakamura of Japan about this. They said they will try to correct this in the next beta fix. "

here is the feature list of the latest 4k beta OS:

Changes since V1.51. (as of V1.51s)

Important note: Multi program, which is created or saved by V1.51s or higher, cannot be loaded in previous versions. (Because of FX parameters changes)

* Audition-From-Disk function. This is now available on F4 in the Load page.
- direct audition WAV files from FAT32/FAT16 HD
- direct audition WAV files from ISO CDs
- direct audition AKAI samples from S1000/S3000 disks
- audition samples from foreign disks (Roland/EMU): sample is loaded in RAM for auditionning
Note: It is possible that incorrect sound appears from slow speed device like USB ZIP, USB Flash, etc, especially when auditioning 96KHz stereo sample.

* Change FX Gain Structure
- improvements to FX send level
- FX return level range increased by 12dB
- display FX Return Level in dB in FX / MIX
(for compatibility, Multi created with previous OS will default to -12dB)

* Improvements to the GOTO function (now behaves as MPC3000)
- pressing GOTO twice locates to the previous locate point
- cursor retains previous position

* Improvements to auto-selection of current Program and current Sample
- Program selected in PROGRAM mode:
From MAIN, Program assigned to the Part of the current Track (if Out is set to PART)
From MULTI or PART MIXER, Program assigned to current the Part
- Sample selected in SAMPLE mode:
From PROGRAM, Sample assigned to the current KeyGroup
From PAD Mixer, Sample assigned to the current Pad

* Improvements to COPY TO function in SEQ EDIT
- Copy&Paste Data window now retains Copy Range and Pad/Notes selection

* Improvements to Sequencer Sync to MIDI clock.
The sequencer is now no longer quantised to when MIDI clock arrives.

* Improvements to SLICE SAMPLE and Beat Calculation in Sample mode
- sequence can only be generated to an unused track (prevents overwriting existing sequence)
- new sequence tempo uses sample's BPM setting
- new sequence is looped automatically to the length of sliced sample

* Limit Sequence file renaming to 16 chars in disk UTILITY

* Improvements to loading items with names longer than 20 chars.

* Option to Spin-Down Hard Drive in LOAD page

* Change to PLAY START key in Sequence Loop mode:
- PLAY START always plays from the start of the Sequence
- SHIFT+PLAY START plays from the start of the loop

* Improved timing at the sequence change when "Reset Q-LINK on sequence change" is ON

* Improve LFO "desync" (LFO SYNC OFF)

* Added Direct access from MISC. mode to
- Sync window (with added Sync ON/OFF softkey)
- Auto-Punch window (with added Auto-Punch ON/OFF softkey)
- Metronome window (with added Metronome ON/OFF softkey)
- Tempo window (with added Tempo Changes ON/OFF and Seq/Master softkeys)



Fixes:
* Sample Trim points restored incorrectly when Loop is not set (One Shot) and trim points are inside loop. Fixed
Please note that due to a limitation in the standard WAV file format, Loop points are only stored if the sample mode is set to LOOP. This is not a bug.
* Aftertouch was ignored for 16-levels tuning when it should only be ignored for 16-levels velocity. Fixed
* NOTE OFF or TOGGLE play trigger was waiting until end of Release to start sample. Fixed
* REPLACE Paste acted as MERGE if Clipboard/Library copied using ALL Pads in SEQ EDIT of a DRUM track. Fixed
* "Keep or Retry" window didn't appear after QFX completed. Fixed
* Problems with some SCSI CD-ROMs and not correctly recognising files on a ISO-9660 CD-ROM. Fixed
* Metronome count in at wrong rate when synced to MIDI clock. Fixed
* Sequence change problem when entering Overdub without pausing.Fixed
* "Stop" key does not work when empty sequence started by foot switch. Fixed
* Record margin display not working for Mono recordings. Fixed
* Possible synchronization drift in long sequences as MTC Slave. Fixed.
* Display glitch when changing tracks with cursor on Device Name. Fixed.

wow. that's pretty extensive.

maybe now that they have cleared up the 4K problems they can concentrate on some of the 1K problems ...lets hope akai isnt as bad as i think they are...

bachypham wrote:I have an idea, let's make sure that this thread stays on the front page of this forum until it is resolved. I do not want Akai to make money off of a faulty product. It was embarrassing for me to go back to Guitar Center twice to return a brand new product. They have not treated me the same since. I feel that this problem is absolutely retarded. They have been aware of it for a while and did not address it in their last OS update... something seems fishy here. You would also think that someone at Akai would be aware of this forum, probably the most comprehensive mpc resource. They are totally ignoring their customers. That is whack. I have been to many other "much smaller" yahoogroups for different instruments that have a representative or representatives from the respective company keeping people informed... the decent thing to do. Akai have been around for a long time and they have gained a good product reputation and a lousy customer service one. We all have the internet now and they can't be pulling the same **** anymore. Make sure that this thread stays at the top. Don't buy their **** until it works. Look at how fired up I am getting over a product I do not own and am not willing to support.

cough

digiblog wrote:
here is the feature list of the latest 4k beta OS:

Changes since V1.51. (as of V1.51s)

Important note: Multi program, which is created or saved by V1.51s or higher, cannot be loaded in previous versions. (Because of FX parameters changes)

* Audition-From-Disk function. This is now available on F4 in the Load page.
- direct audition WAV files from FAT32/FAT16 HD
- direct audition WAV files from ISO CDs
- direct audition AKAI samples from S1000/S3000 disks
- audition samples from foreign disks (Roland/EMU): sample is loaded in RAM for auditionning
Note: It is possible that incorrect sound appears from slow speed device like USB ZIP, USB Flash, etc, especially when auditioning 96KHz stereo sample.

* Change FX Gain Structure
- improvements to FX send level
- FX return level range increased by 12dB
- display FX Return Level in dB in FX / MIX
(for compatibility, Multi created with previous OS will default to -12dB)

* Improvements to the GOTO function (now behaves as MPC3000)
- pressing GOTO twice locates to the previous locate point
- cursor retains previous position

* Improvements to auto-selection of current Program and current Sample
- Program selected in PROGRAM mode:
From MAIN, Program assigned to the Part of the current Track (if Out is set to PART)
From MULTI or PART MIXER, Program assigned to current the Part
- Sample selected in SAMPLE mode:
From PROGRAM, Sample assigned to the current KeyGroup
From PAD Mixer, Sample assigned to the current Pad

* Improvements to COPY TO function in SEQ EDIT
- Copy&Paste Data window now retains Copy Range and Pad/Notes selection

* Improvements to Sequencer Sync to MIDI clock.
The sequencer is now no longer quantised to when MIDI clock arrives.

* Improvements to SLICE SAMPLE and Beat Calculation in Sample mode
- sequence can only be generated to an unused track (prevents overwriting existing sequence)
- new sequence tempo uses sample's BPM setting
- new sequence is looped automatically to the length of sliced sample

* Limit Sequence file renaming to 16 chars in disk UTILITY

* Improvements to loading items with names longer than 20 chars.

* Option to Spin-Down Hard Drive in LOAD page

* Change to PLAY START key in Sequence Loop mode:
- PLAY START always plays from the start of the Sequence
- SHIFT+PLAY START plays from the start of the loop

* Improved timing at the sequence change when "Reset Q-LINK on sequence change" is ON

* Improve LFO "desync" (LFO SYNC OFF)

* Added Direct access from MISC. mode to
- Sync window (with added Sync ON/OFF softkey)
- Auto-Punch window (with added Auto-Punch ON/OFF softkey)
- Metronome window (with added Metronome ON/OFF softkey)
- Tempo window (with added Tempo Changes ON/OFF and Seq/Master softkeys)



Fixes:
* Sample Trim points restored incorrectly when Loop is not set (One Shot) and trim points are inside loop. Fixed
Please note that due to a limitation in the standard WAV file format, Loop points are only stored if the sample mode is set to LOOP. This is not a bug.
* Aftertouch was ignored for 16-levels tuning when it should only be ignored for 16-levels velocity. Fixed
* NOTE OFF or TOGGLE play trigger was waiting until end of Release to start sample. Fixed
* REPLACE Paste acted as MERGE if Clipboard/Library copied using ALL Pads in SEQ EDIT of a DRUM track. Fixed
* "Keep or Retry" window didn't appear after QFX completed. Fixed
* Problems with some SCSI CD-ROMs and not correctly recognising files on a ISO-9660 CD-ROM. Fixed
* Metronome count in at wrong rate when synced to MIDI clock. Fixed
* Sequence change problem when entering Overdub without pausing.Fixed
* "Stop" key does not work when empty sequence started by foot switch. Fixed
* Record margin display not working for Mono recordings. Fixed
* Possible synchronization drift in long sequences as MTC Slave. Fixed.
* Display glitch when changing tracks with cursor on Device Name. Fixed.

And the mpc1k latest update

MPC1000 V1.05 Release Note

Noise can occur on sample or the sample name will be damaged if one sample of several mono samples are edited with "DISCARD" in the Trim mode. --- fixed




Funny as hell.

samples dropout from time to time.

ALRIGHT, IM HAVING THESE DAMN SAMPLE PROBLEMS TOO, YET FOUND THAT IN MY MPC WHEN YOU ACTIVATE 16 LEVELS THE SOUND WILL DROP OUT WITH ANY NOTE OFF MESSAGE IF YOU'RE HOLDING A CHORD.

BASICALLY TO TRY THIS (IF IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE ELSE) ACTIVATE 16 LEVELS WITH A LOOPED SAMPLE POSSIBLY A STRING LOOP ETC. HOLD A CHORD OF 3 NOTES AND WHILE HOLDING IT, LET GO OF ONE OF THOSE NOTES AND YOU MAY FIND THAT ALL NOTES WILL STOP.

I TRIED TO EMAIL AKAI ON THEIR US SITE AND WROTE KIND OF A DIRTY MESSAGE, AND THEY NEVER REPLIED. THE FUNNY PART IS THAT 2 DAYS LATER I WENT TO THE SITE AND THEY REMOVED THE LINK TO THE EMAIL SUPPORT THAT I USED. ALMOST LOOKED LIKE THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEMS.

now the people who are having this problem, are the samples that are dropping out samples that you recorded into the MPC itself, or say samples that were moved via USB from a computer

Both!!


It doesnt happen ALOT but when it does it pisses me off because it throws me off or i have to stop and re-record

Well from computer i never really sample from the machine.

I Find 16 levels is useless because you cant control a respectable melody or rhythm. If you play any consecutive note will affect the previous note by giving it a very short decay or just cancel the note all together.

Also when i did sample into mine when I'd begin to crop the samples, moving the start and end points would crash the whole machine and there would be a bunch of hexidecimals that would flash by the screen. so ridiculous for an expensive piece of metal and silicon.

I THINK THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS THAT NOTE OFF MESSAGES CAN AFFECT ALL NOTES PERIODICALLY, AND THAT WOULD BE A BELIEVABLE BUG.

I BET AKAI NEVER CHECK THIS FORUM BECAUSE IT IS TOO MUCH OF A PAIN TO SIGN UP.

SOMEBODY GIVE THEM A PASSWORD TO USE (IF THEY'LL BOTHER ANYWAYS)

16 levels always works that way. Think about it, you have one sample playing at different tunings, any note off will cut the ONE Sample off.

16 levels in mono or poly is better, but not quite for chords and such.

Jezz, can't you have like 24 programs in that thing? just make a multisample program of what you want chords for, Sheesh.

Course, that's why people like the xl's autochromatic assign feature. But I think you are missing the point of 16 levels entirely, because even the XL behaves like that.

Well, it would make sense that polyphony would cover something like that. But yes you are right make a pad that is already a tuned chord. It still doesn't help the drop out samples when having a long note length. A drum machine it is, yet these features make you dream of so much more. I guess you have to put more planning into what you're doing to have it work as assumed.