IM CURIOUS.. JJ Q

so on the hunt for some new drum sounds I loaded up a bunch of kits into my 2500 a few minutes ago.

(side note: im currently using JJos free 3.09 until my warranty work is done and I get JJOSxl or OS2)

Ok so I am well aware of the 24 program limit in 3.09 free. and aware of the 999 sample count as well.

so I sequence some snares and kicks. stacking em in the sequence to stack more than 4 or so looking for creative sounds and what not.. and then play the seq and resample it so I can cut and trim the new sounds..

Well as u know once you sample something and go to trim, the last thing you sample is right there.. or if you go to program and hit a pad, then go to trim, same thing the last sample you hit is on screen.

well when I sampled my stacked sequence and went to trim it wasnt there. Not thinking I sampled it again, and then again, each time going to trim after and sure enough it was still not there. it was a Hihat instead, Im like huh?

So I go to the Sample list, and see its full at 999 samples.. even though I still had 80mb of 128 free (lots and lots of very small samples loaded).

Well to my surprise what happened is the memory allows every sound from all 24 kits I loaded up into memory but since 3.09 only addresses 999 sounds I had to remove the excess sounds after 999 from the memory in order to get my new sample01, sample02 and sample03 to appear on the list.

SO I am wondering, how many samples can you load into os2 and osxl? I know its like 99 programs I believe, but whats the sample count limit?
Im gonna go dig around on the jj site for the info , but if someone knows off the top spit it.

ok so the comparison chart on the JJ site says 99 programs and below on the chart says notes..

but its like 100.000 and 300.000.. thats not what Im looking for.

I wanna know how many samples can be loaded at once time max

it's 998 on os xl, ever tried to purge at this time? ridiculous. a real problem of the mpc's . you have to save the programs with samples, save the sequence, switch off and back on, load programs/sequence and then your ready to load new samples.
i use a pc now for cutting, sample playback and hotswap action with drumsamples. the mpc is a really cool midi master and sequencer but not up to date sampler. the whole velocity modulation is missing in osxl exept vel>pitch. and vel>vol of course...

I actually never hit purge. It's an instant crash for me..... I remember my old mpc2000 use to take 30 minutes for anything over 20 extra samples in memory. At least it purged though...

you have to save the programs with samples, save the sequence, switch off and back on, load programs/sequence and then your ready to load new samples.

you dont have to turn off to do this. you have two options:

1.create an empty folder, load it and press CLEAR to blank the memory.

2. save your new programs and seqeunces to a a new folder. reload the folder and press clear to blank the memory.

I am on OSXL and I use Purge all the time with no problems.
But the most programs that I load are about 7.
I try to keep the memory as clean as possible while I'm working.


For live performance you may def have a problem with that sample limit.

For Production. I may load up 5-7 .PGMs but will end up using 1 or 2 in the end, after I swap, delete and purge.

mikolo wrote:

you have to save the programs with samples, save the sequence, switch off and back on, load programs/sequence and then your ready to load new samples.

you dont have to turn off to do this. you have two options:

1.create an empty folder, load it and press CLEAR to blank the memory.

2. save your new programs and seqeunces to a a new folder. reload the folder and press clear to blank the memory.

wow so it is 998 or 999 either way huh. that sux. and yea, I do the load program trick and choose clear instead of purging.
Unless I dont have much to purge. but I never purge alot at once. I lost a great track a couple weeks ago that way/ Like a tool i didnt save my sh!t before I purged the samples. But that was the thing, I was trying to clear up the memory B4 I did the save to minimize the BS.

In any case.. I dont normally have a ton of programs loaded, EXCEPT for when I am auditioning new sounds to choose what to use. In that case I btach create programs on my pc, dump to flash, and then load the programs and sounds up and audition them. For me that is much much faster than auditioning from the load screen.
Then I just assign the sounds I want to a new program.

Anyone have a better way?

what happen yesterday is I just maxed out the sample list and my new samples were not visible on the list. but after deleting several, they were.

Triple-X wrote:
wow so it is 998 or 999 either way huh. that sux. and yea, I do the load program trick and choose clear instead of purging.
Unless I dont have much to purge. but I never purge alot at once. I lost a great track a couple weeks ago that way/ Like a tool i didnt save my sh!t before I purged the samples. But that was the thing, I was trying to clear up the memory B4 I did the save to minimize the BS.

In any case.. I dont normally have a ton of programs loaded, EXCEPT for when I am auditioning new sounds to choose what to use. In that case I btach create programs on my pc, dump to flash, and then load the programs and sounds up and audition them. For me that is much much faster than auditioning from the load screen.
Then I just assign the sounds I want to a new program.

Anyone have a better way?

what happen yesterday is I just maxed out the sample list and my new samples were not visible on the list. but after deleting several, they were.

the last number in list is 998 . don't know why

did you mean copy the needed pads to a new program?, probably faster than assigning.

and how do you batch create programs on pc?

oLsen wrote:

Triple-X wrote:
wow so it is 998 or 999 either way huh. that sux. and yea, I do the load program trick and choose clear instead of purging.
Unless I dont have much to purge. but I never purge alot at once. I lost a great track a couple weeks ago that way/ Like a tool i didnt save my sh!t before I purged the samples. But that was the thing, I was trying to clear up the memory B4 I did the save to minimize the BS.

In any case.. I dont normally have a ton of programs loaded, EXCEPT for when I am auditioning new sounds to choose what to use. In that case I btach create programs on my pc, dump to flash, and then load the programs and sounds up and audition them. For me that is much much faster than auditioning from the load screen.
Then I just assign the sounds I want to a new program.

Anyone have a better way?

what happen yesterday is I just maxed out the sample list and my new samples were not visible on the list. but after deleting several, they were.

the last number in list is 998 . don't know why

did you mean copy the needed pads to a new program?, probably faster than assigning.

and how do you batch create programs on pc?

umm in 3.09 i have 999 max on my sample list.

and I meant load a bunch of programs, raw programs.. one program of snares, one of kicks, and so on.
then with all of the sounds loaded in mem I will create a new program and assign the sounds i like to the pads I want.

as far as batch creating programs, I have been using mpcmaid. So if I have a folder on my pc for instance that says "new samples", and inside it has four sub folders (kiks, snares, claps, percussion) and inside each of those folders there is 100 sounds each. MPCmaid will allow you to batch create programs for each folder. So I choose batch create for the "new samples" folder. and mpcmaid automatically creates as many programs as needed for each sub folder (64 sounds per program). so those folders that has nothing but 100 sounds each will now have two programs in each.. for example kiks01.pgm and kiks02.pgm. two obviously since 64 sounds in the first one and the remaining 36 sounds in the other.. all on the pads in the order the were in from the original folder.

got it?

wow, nice. never heard of mpcmaid before. don't know why
and it's open source ,perfect. thanks

from JJ's FAQ:

Q:
Is there any possible way to get in more than 998 samples....i need this bad

A:
The file with more MPC than 998 does not read.
Moreover, more files to a load mode than 998 are not displayed.

also Olsen check my post higher up for a couple of ways to delete samples without turning off the mpc.

do I have to load 999 samples snap a pic and upload that sh!t? LOL

oLsen wrote:wow, nice. never heard of mpcmaid before. don't know why
and it's open source ,perfect. thanks

as per your open source comment..
do you program software? if so I could think of a couple of feature you might add.. lol

yo i know in free jj os it's 999.

no sorry no programming skills yet. i mean it's free useable

wtf you all doing with 999 samples? i mean, not to sound like an idiot but i aint reach above 30 and thats samplin alot of shit.