Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000

By ecsmix Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:50 pm
I liked your post, cool things u said and very helpfull in the future...
I would like to you to tell me the exact name of the songs/artists to check it out.

Thanks,
Eric.

p.s:I would like to hear work work any anybody's specially to learn more about swing and stuff....
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By badacid678 Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:49 pm
just my two cents, because I'm here at work, watching my money drop in the market, all 2 bucks of it.

Beats make the soul and soul make the beats. I realize that I don't like allot of artists, because I can't really look up to anyone. I used to like Plastikman and some grooverider, squarepusher, as well as some others like diamond d and of course primo, swizz. I follow more the producers cause they are real and not sold out like the artists sometimes get.

Some of the beats on this forum are really good though, I have to admit. I'm getting some of mine on soon hopefully.

Plus people are always going to flame other people on forums, its just funny like that.

By boywithpez007 Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:30 am
if thats not loops outta fruity den you shut me the fk up....
Word

doesnt cover for your attitude tho
No-One. Out

hehe

By ecsmix Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:52 am
Actually I like fruity a lot, but I've been using Reason a little more, but both softwares are powerfull, in the drums parts Fruity is easier and faster to do it, but I have tons of reason refills and fruity doesn't read .rex(Recycle) yet and I don't know how to deal with Fruity's Rewire very well as I do with Reason.
I don't think I had an attitude I just asked a few questions, because I was about to spend a lot of money in a mpc 4k, that's it.
You guys attacked me and I just answer that's all, no hard feelings, that's internet forum stuff.

For that Remix I used

Acid 4, main sequencer.
Reason.
Super quartet.
Stylus.

Blue Haze: If you have a high level DAW like Logic, DP, or others you can copy an audio groove into a midi groove and paste it into your midi tracks. Also you can set for a MPC groove using Pro Tools too.

Reason has a feauture called "get user groove" you can copy the beats midi groove and paste into your tracks(beat loop), but I don't know if works just like logic or digital performer or the mpc itself because I still ignorant as far as swing can do.
One of the guys from Reason's forum did a awesome midi file with all the groove form mpc 3k, but I don't know if works just like the mpc.

By boywithpez007 Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:44 pm
damn dude im outta date on software, I stuffed around with rebirth and cubase a bit before I got into hardware but sounds like u can do some phat sht if u got a pc that can step up.
I would never buy software, the same way i've never bought a computer game... and i've only got out of date sht and no pc...
Ill stick 2 my hardware....

mmmmm Internet Peace...
Pez. Out
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By Blue Haze Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:22 am
Just a reminder to everyone we all use software. The software is built into the MPC like , Fruity, Live and everything else. Working with loops is the style of making music with a computer or sampling hardware. I have both equipment, but I tend to work with the hardware more because I have more freedom and ease on how I want to manipulate and change the sounds aka loops into their basic notes. With the pads and a midi keyboard controllers I can work with more feel to my playing. It`s all about body rhythm, ear, hand, mind and sometimes a bit of eyes cooridination with step edit. When I want to swing notes I just go to the track play it back and dial in the swing to my taste. I have Abelton Live, Reason Adapted, Recycle 2.1 and Pro Tools with Rewire; however, the loops like Vinylistics, Big Fish and others are used by millions of other mofos, so I want to chopped them up and reprogram them so as not to have an regular generic sounding loops that is easily recognizable always. It is so, so easy to make the drums my own on a MPC with a piano, bass line or vocals on top. If I have some sound modules (I got rid of my Triton and most I use records and multsample instrument CDs that I can systhenize) midi up with the MPC too I have an easy time at it too. Mainly all of the great Beasties songs Integalactic, _Brass Monkey, Outlaw and others were made using hardware. My current fav" Do you" by Slum Village," Get Low" by Memphis Bleek and "Don`t Say Nothing" by the Roots, "Good Times" by Pitch Black and others shows part of the beauty of the MPC series. With the MPC the song "Flipside" by Freeway wouldn`t be as live just banging out crazy on the pads oppose to moving a premade loop into arrangement in a sequencer. Making up the music I use an MPC. Recording, Mixing and arranging I use an DAW. I see you used my quote about the groove extractor, the low tech way on the MPC is to copy the audio onto a track on the MPC and play along with the beat and make up your own beat. That way you have the groove with drums of your own.
A tool to shape, mode and create music is what a MPC gives one working with your hands, body, and spirit. DAW and loop sequencers are great too but as for me I have a easier time programming with a MPC faster and easier with an more distinct sounds than with my computer software. Plus to really use a computer DAW like I would relly like to I would have to buy
an controller hardware anyway. Hands down the human touch is easier with the MPCs or other midi instrumentals for that matter.

I don`t know if you understood but Ninth Wonder is producer who is using Fruit Loops for beatmaking he did pretty good on his tracks the most popular so far is "Threat" by Jay-Z, I don` know if he use grid mode on a DAW or a midi controller to program the beats.
:D

By boywithpez007 Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:44 am
yeah I have nothing against pc's but like u said haze you would have to put a bit of money into a pc to make it worthwhile making beats(Soundcard, Controller, not to mention CPU power and Software)

Its all about what your into, and the best and easiest way you can bang out ORIGINAL tracks......

I sit on a computer all day at work I dont wanna come home and sit another 8 hours in front of a shitty arse CRT monitor. I love the feel, sound and stability of hardware. and thats why I use an mpc.
Pez.
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By Blue Haze Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:51 pm
Bring that beat back one time :D
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By Blue Haze Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:06 pm
BH nugget for the curius and beginners :idea:
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By feline1 Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:51 pm
this thread was a load of old drivel
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By Blue Haze Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:06 pm
You are right and insightful however thru some form, shape, or coincidence the same discussion always comes back when a new gear is released, new user enters the board, a frustrated vet gets a wet dream to ease his production. It may have a different title, a different author, or a different question but it always boils down to the user mastering the basics not so much the gear processing everything. It was a learning experience that vets, pros, newbies, and just about everyone can see the other side which is effort, persistance, openmindness, and imagination. :D
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By Blue Haze Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:33 am
(Quote by Acebeat)

I bought a mv8000 and i can tell many poeple told things here that is wrong.

Renegade bliss told we couldnt switch song, thats not true you can switch song in less than 5 seconds.

You choose select song, then you got your list of songs, you choose and it loads in less than 5 seconds.


Also you have pattern mode and drum grid mode + linear sequencer mode.

You can have up to 500 pattern by project, 128 midi tracks by songs and 8 audio tracks by songs and 16 patches (96 notes per patches and 4 samples per notes triggered by velocity change) by songs.

You can have 128 patches per projects in the project library and 9999 samples per projects and 512 audio phrase assigned to the pads and you can assign pattern to pads too, so you can do remixes lives and stuff.

You can chop up and assign to patche like with Dr.Rex in reason. Pretty cool. Chopping is easy!!! you can zoom and chop so much precise you dont need that much precision but in case!! You can choose how many beats and stuff...Really like Dr.Rex.

You can change your HD for a 120 gig one and upgrade memory to 512 MB so you can have 512 MB of sounds per project total.

That's a lot of samples!!!!!

You got a function called backup to CD, then it backup the whole project on it, with every sample and patches inside.

You got a mixer for the 16 patches and 8 audio track with aux outs and insert and stuff, complete like a big mixer.

Overall this thing is so easy i read the manual on the fly and i worked with it like 10 hours. I never tried mpc or machines except MC505 and 303
and i bought it from the store without playin with it once. only seeing videos from roland. And i get my way around almost everything.

I only mention a few things, but for real this thing is dope.

Phono inputs directly on the back, vga and mouse output and drum grid edition...WOW!!

I dont know why poeple dont like it, i think mpc is good too.

I think mv is great but mpc user want to stick to it and say its the best cuz it was here since start.

That's true. But that will only make akai evoluate to new stuff then roland come back with nicer things and so on.

At the end we will all benefit of this!!
_________________
Holla Ace quote by Acebeat


Thanks for your insights and can you give some tips on your usage of the mv8000? :D

By Kilowax Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:16 pm
http://members.aol.com/uniquenyc/sample.html


sampling history/influence by URStudio...

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By The Beat Conductor Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:42 pm
I want to see an MPC with a built-in mega synth.

By Kilowax Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:15 pm
The Beat Conductor wrote:I want to see an MPC with a built-in mega synth.


:lol: ... ya talk bout....the 4K :lol: :wink: ...

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