Are effect setups independent?

arebee wrote:

musikmachine wrote:Oh yea! Cheers arebee!

All this time i thought the mpc was limited to one set of fx for the whole project. The more time i spend with the mpc and reading the forums the more i learn and the more ways i find of being creative with it. I really should RTFM!

well, i didnt R it in T FM!, ehheh,

'twas merely a matter of finding myself (yet again), cursor somewhere on a screen, armed with a data wheel, naturally i find myself scrolling right through any options available at any particular time to see the possibilities......this time was the 'step edit' page, scroll, scroll, scroll, see - 'insert', 'effect' , BANG!

"now i can insert all these different things into my seqs' " i thought.....and the work flowed on, in new directions, more to keep me entertained/busy/learning/happy etc.

try it - the data wheel explorer kit - on a fresh project though, so nothing's at risk.

There is more to it than first meets the eye that's for sure. I'm still finding out new things about it after 4 months! This takes it to a whole new level for creative sampling. I've been back and forth about keeping the mpc recently to focus on Live 8 but these little things keep pulling me back. The jj os manual now avaialble as a pdf really helps too as i couldn't really follow the online guide. I wouldn't sell the mpc for anything now.

arebee wrote:yo,

the effects can be set to independent sequences....or even independent tracks within a seq.

go to the step edit list in a sequence, go to "insert",scroll to the "effect" listing then select the effect number (corresponds to the effects setups page, where they're stored numbered 1 to 20). **but are NOT saved IN a seq, its the .ALL file is where this info is saved.

so in each sequence if u have a favourite fx set for the stuff in any seq, it will be recalled at the time the sequence starts.

the fx# can be inserted into any track in that seq, so in practice its really easy to switch between fx# live by un-muting the tracks with the fx# on.

i like to set the fx# inserted to say each quarter note so that if i want to "punch " between fx, i can do it by unmuting the track, the fx changes on beat . this can be elaborated upon to a greater degree of density, beware of tiny clicks as the "audio phase" is interrupted due the fx changes being altered abruptly....some are worse than others, and indeed, if theres a mad delay with feedback and deep fx, these can bleed over into each other for other dirty fx action.

PS JJ!, If JJ would give us a holy grail of 'smoothing' between fx switches if be one slinky happy mother crusher.

THANKS I'M IN A BIT OF A BIND

- I set Effect01 with Reverb for my drum tracks but when I go to Effect20 and set FX1 to Delay, hoping to link it to a Bass sample on a different track, my drums get the Delay effect instead and the Reverb is overwritten by it..how would i go about setting individual effects 1 through 20 to individual tracks? sry if im unclear

arebee wrote:yo,

the effects can be set to independent sequences....or even independent tracks within a seq.

go to the step edit list in a sequence, go to "insert",scroll to the "effect" listing then select the effect number (corresponds to the effects setups page, where they're stored numbered 1 to 20). **but are NOT saved IN a seq, its the .ALL file is where this info is saved.

so in each sequence if u have a favourite fx set for the stuff in any seq, it will be recalled at the time the sequence starts.

the fx# can be inserted into any track in that seq, so in practice its really easy to switch between fx# live by un-muting the tracks with the fx# on.

i like to set the fx# inserted to say each quarter note so that if i want to "punch " between fx, i can do it by unmuting the track, the fx changes on beat . this can be elaborated upon to a greater degree of density, beware of tiny clicks as the "audio phase" is interrupted due the fx changes being altered abruptly....some are worse than others, and indeed, if theres a mad delay with feedback and deep fx, these can bleed over into each other for other dirty fx action.

PS JJ!, If JJ would give us a holy grail of 'smoothing' between fx switches if be one slinky happy mother crusher.

strange, only today at work I was thinking about idea for a beat an then I got thinking that i'd totally mastered that mpc (functionally) obviously not as this one slipped right past me, I usually go out board for fx but i'm def gonna try and impliment that live technique...

Thanks for the tip!

oh my god this is so nice for constructing live sets!! I really don't think many people are aware of this yet at the same time I have no idea how I have missed out on this for so long???

thanks so much anyway.

arebee wrote:go to the step edit list in a sequence, go to "insert",scroll to the "effect" listing then select the effect number (corresponds to the effects setups page, where they're stored numbered 1 to 20). **but are NOT saved IN a seq, its the .ALL file is where this info is saved.

i must have been sleeping - ive never seen these 20 possible effects

so you can have 20 different effects parameters set, and switch between them at will?

bananas!!!

This has got to be the best tip so far....I've always told people I was limited to 2 effects for the whole song.

This changes the game for me.
F* yeah! Thanks for the tip!

rarara wrote:

arebee wrote:go to the step edit list in a sequence, go to "insert",scroll to the "effect" listing then select the effect number (corresponds to the effects setups page, where they're stored numbered 1 to 20). **but are NOT saved IN a seq, its the .ALL file is where this info is saved.

i must have been sleeping - ive never seen these 20 possible effects

so you can have 20 different effects parameters set, and switch between them at will?

had a look last night and found em! seems a bit daft that they can only be used as step events though. and would be handy if they could be saved as global parameters rather than in a .ALL file

does it mean though, that if you have 20 tracks each can have a different effects setting?