mr_debauch wrote:well the way i see it...
not looking at the beat kangz and only looking at the product... is this something we would like to see on the market? absolutely. no question about it. sure, they dont offer any new abilities... but they offer things we can already do in a different package. (well they might eventually offer if the beat thang ever comes out)
this product once it comes out will get the attention of other companies. it puts people like akai in a position to one up them. roland probably wont care because they make keyboards and the mv probably already has more features and effects then the beat thang... at least from what i have put together from all the info.
it adds a new face to the groovebox market. that is not a bad thing.
Unfortunately, the people here who are huge beat thang fans... those people who are tossing the "hater" card as a response to anyone who isn't a fan of what BKE is doing... well guess what?
you guys are fans of a product that is not even made yet. the software does not work properly.. okay granted, it has less bugs then the mpc5000... but it still cant even step sequence yet. I dont even know how they made the real time record without a step sequencer.
all the people who are saying "wait untill the update" .. I'm sorry to say this, but you guys got screwed. You shouldn't have to wait for an update in order for the software to fully function. Companies are not supposed to even release products and sell them if all the functions dont work. update... pfff, that is not an update, that is a new program.
"have faith" well i'm sorry, that is something that is earned by proof. For a company that had to release a shoddy piece of software written with bad code just so the public would trust that they really are going to release a product... that doesnt earn my faith.
Yes I am interested in what they will accomplish. I read all of this **** which proves I am interested.
But I hate the PR methods they use. I love viral marketing, I may be the only one that does... but I hate the way they do viral marketing. I hate how they lie right to our faces... especially when they tell us one thing, but the liscence agreeent says the complete opposite. Yeah true, liscence agreements are always subject to change... but who says they wont change it in a few months from now once people already started making beats and selling them?
the beat kangs are acting crooked. I wont pre-order anything from people who cant even include royalty free samples with their products. I wont pre-order anything from a company who cant even make a mini-battery 3 properly... what makes me believe they can make an entire OS for a piece of complex gear? Well that is why proof is needed... dont get stuck with something that useless untill an update comes out.
I learned my lesson from just blaze making it with the mpc5000... so if you cant even trust an already established company... why would you pre-order and dick ride a company who hasn't even made a single functional product yet?
this is where its at, i totally agree with you, I ordered the virtual and got upset cause I was basically lied to, when i asked questions i got shotty answers just telling me what i wanted to here, the funny thing is i told 15 of my friends who are producers about the hardware and about the specs, i basically had all 15 talked into buying the hardware, I recently called every single one of them and broke the news to them also referring them to all the info that is up, and telling them how the kangz will not even return my e-mails cause i voiced my opinion, all 15 of them are out, and me too, after seeing how they treat people, diss tracks and all F U C K them,, its funny a few of my boys are in tn, they are the kinda dudes you dont wanna sell shitty hardware too.. hahaha
